Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 1:03 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

That`s an interesting take PT, how do you get to the fact Bowden`s work rate is easily the highest?

Just looking at the last 6 games the front rowers have played in;

Bowden
Carries - 54
Metres - 496
PC metres - 162
Tackles - 98

Rodwell
Carries - 69
Metres - 643
PC metres - 213
Tackles - 146

Uele
Carries - 65
Metres - 649
PC metres - 255
Tackles - 118

Atoni
Carries - 61
Metres - 589
PC metres - 210
Tackles - 109

Its The post contact meters stat that shows how effective these guys are and the effect it has on oppositions defence/energy levels, but as you say Bowden is ranked at best 4th, but still pretty good stats

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 2:54 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

That`s an interesting take PT, how do you get to the fact Bowden`s work rate is easily the highest?

Just looking at the last 6 games the front rowers have played in;

Bowden
Carries - 54
Metres - 496
PC metres - 162
Tackles - 98

Rodwell
Carries - 69
Metres - 643
PC metres - 213
Tackles - 146

Uele
Carries - 65
Metres - 649
PC metres - 255
Tackles - 118

Atoni
Carries - 61
Metres - 589
PC metres - 210
Tackles - 109

I think you have to take into account what has already been mentioned. Roof/JB are up against our opponents 1st choice props, as well as the other middles. When Rodders & The Big U come on, they are up against different props - but - crucially - other middles who have been on since the start - so that may account for the higher numbers.
I do agree that Josh has been a bit of an unsung hero too.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 3:45 pm  

BarnsleyGull wrote:

I think you have to take into account what has already been mentioned. Roof/JB are up against our opponents 1st choice props, as well as the other middles. When Rodders & The Big U come on, they are up against different props - but - crucially - other middles who have been on since the start - so that may account for the higher numbers.
I do agree that Josh has been a bit of an unsung hero too.

But how do the stats show that Bowden is 'easily the highest' when it comes to work rate? Even taking into account your comments which Im not sure have that much relevance as opposition also use interchange forwards, usually within the same few minutes. By the way Atoni starts aswell, look at his stats.

I think all of the stats are brilliant, I'm just not sure how we have a front runner in Bowdens work rate being easily the highest in the team.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 4:10 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

But how do the stats show that Bowden is 'easily the highest' when it comes to work rate? Even taking into account your comments which Im not sure have that much relevance as opposition also use interchange forwards, usually within the same few minutes. By the way Atoni starts aswell, look at his stats.

I think all of the stats are brilliant, I'm just not sure how we have a front runner in Bowdens work rate being easily the highest in the team.

Don't think i said that....
I think that other than the props that rotate at the same time the other middles are the same - so are more fatigued for when the props have been rotated.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 4:15 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

But how do the stats show that Bowden is 'easily the highest' when it comes to work rate? Even taking into account your comments which Im not sure have that much relevance as opposition also use interchange forwards, usually within the same few minutes. By the way Atoni starts aswell, look at his stats.

I think all of the stats are brilliant, I'm just not sure how we have a front runner in Bowdens work rate being easily the highest in the team.

Our interchange forwards are of the same high quality (arguably) as the starting forwards. I've not seen a championship side yet that has that luxury.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 4:16 pm  

Uele has a real engine on him for a player who plays with high intensity, same with Rodwell. Atoni and Bowden all playing well too.

It’s a sign of players enjoying their rugby to me and having the right mentality to work hard on and off the pitch and roll their sleeves up during the game.

The core of a successful team for years to come is there and young and old, starting or rotating they’re all playing a part.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 6:10 pm  

It'd be interesting to see those stats alongside the minutes each person played.

[PopTart]

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 6:28 pm  

homme vaste wrote:

That`s an interesting take PT, how do you get to the fact Bowden`s work rate is easily the highest?

Just looking at the last 6 games the front rowers have played in;

Bowden
Carries - 54
Metres - 496
PC metres - 162
Tackles - 98

Rodwell
Carries - 69
Metres - 643
PC metres - 213
Tackles - 146

Uele
Carries - 65
Metres - 649
PC metres - 255
Tackles - 118

Atoni
Carries - 61
Metres - 589
PC metres - 210
Tackles - 109

Because you are not showing the stats on the link I was referring to.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 6:39 pm  

TimmySmith wrote:

It'd be interesting to see those stats alongside the minutes each person played.

Thought the same when I went through them, it would add greatly to the picture.

Just noticed how insane Griff's stats have been, between 100 and 175 meters per game and god knows how many post-contact metres, whether at centre or back at SR he's been awesome.

I know it's been mentioned but Olphert's stats are also really strong, over 200 meters against Batley, 171 against York, 166 Bradford at home, 185 Bradford 1895 Cup, 142 Sheffield. The lad has done the job that he was brought here to do.

Re: Player stats : Thu May 16, 2024 6:45 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Because you are not showing the stats on the link I was referring to.

Those stats are the last 6 games including the 2 on the link, if you want to talk about the 2 games on the link only then let's talk about the last game, or are you just ignoring the last game and picking the one single game where he is up there?

Bradford game

Bowden

Carries - 7
Metres - 71
Tackles - 11

Uele

Carries 16
Metres 148
Tackles 22

Rodwell

Carries 16
Metres 134
Tackles 25

Again, how is he easily the highest work rate?