Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:57 pm  

Joshh88 wrote:

Smith needs dropping for wood. He has no imagination. All he does is pass. Doesn't run it or look to do anything but pass it straight away. And that off offload to Aiton from Trout. Aiton needs to be awake for stuff like that.

A half back who passes...bloody hell. Drop him!!

Re: after having chance to 'calm down dear' : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:03 pm  

wildwoman wrote:

we were cr@p and cannot see where the next win is gonna come this lot is no better than last year, glover must be wandering why he bothered.

On paper I thought we were a better team in terms of 'ability' than last years squad but something has gone wrong big time in the last 2 games. Only those inside the changing room can say what.

Agar has not got the response that he & WTW needed and now he has a real problem - turning the team completely around & taking on (and competing at least with) two of the best teams in SL one of which are the World Club champions.

Agar needs to focus on the pack because with no go forward or hard hitting shuddering consistent tackles of the opposition pack the rest of the game plan falls by the wayside as its hurried off the back foot stuff.

If he fails over the next 6 games & these lifeless performances continue then he must go & bring in Powell from Featherstone otherwise WTW will go backwards & lose the impetus it has gained over the last 6 months.

Cas have spent alot less than WTW haven't they although they have a SL coach who has won something?

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:09 pm  

Joshh88 wrote:

Smith needs dropping for wood. He has no imagination. All he does is pass. Doesn't run it or look to do anything but pass it straight away. And that off offload to Aiton from Trout. Aiton needs to be awake for stuff like that.

Smith has the potential to be a good signing but our forwards are always on the back foot so he has little space to work although getting caught in your own half on the last is ludicrous.John on the other hand is looking gash and was completely anonymous tonight signing him for 3 years was just madness cos he looks like he has nothing to offer.

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:23 pm  

wildcat13 wrote:

Smith has the potential to be a good signing but our forwards are always on the back foot so he has little space to work although getting caught in your own half on the last is ludicrous.John on the other hand is looking gash and was completely anonymous tonight signing him for 3 years was just madness cos he looks like he has nothing to offer.

Against Catalan didn't John create 2 tries for Cockayne? Need to keep faith in the backs.

WTW need to focus on the pack big time. Rugby League is a game where if your forwards don't dominate or compete closely then you lose. We're getting hammered up front & rolled down the pitch and R.A. has acknowledged this. The Catalan game seems to have 'burned out' some of the forwards??

The concerning thing is if the replacement forwards are no better (James,Eliis,Mariano etc) then its going to be a long painful season & we'll be rooted to the bottom of the table this season instead of second bottom.
There was talk of needing a prop but just one player wouldn't change this around.

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:26 pm  

StanTHEWildcat wrote:

possible the coach has lost the dressing room already?? eitherway the coach has already proven to not being upto the job. 3 year contract he shouldnt have got 3 weeks.

Hear, hear...3 yrs...this is gonna cost us! My heart sank when we appointed him and it continues to plummet

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:29 pm  

asmadasa wrote:

Against Catalan didn't John create 2 tries for Cockayne? Need to keep faith in the backs.

WTW need to focus on the pack big time. Rugby League is a game where if your forwards don't dominate or compete closely then you lose. We're getting hammered up front & rolled down the pitch and R.A. has acknowledged this. The Catalan game seems to have 'burned out' some of the forwards??

The concerning thing is if the replacement forwards are no better (James,Eliis,Mariano etc) then its going to be a long painful season & we'll be rooted to the bottom of the table this season instead of second bottom.
There was talk of needing a prop but just one player wouldn't change this around.

Totally correct. Our problems are totally about the forwards in my view. 1 to 7 cannot perform or be judged when they are playing behind a powder puff pack without a prop in the squad. This problem was there last season and is worse now minus Korki. Idiotic recruitment strategy in my view. Lautiti was a good headline but I would wager he is costing us the 2 hard props we need

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:30 pm  

asmadasa wrote:

Against Catalan didn't John create 2 tries for Cockayne? Need to keep faith in the backs.

WTW need to focus on the pack big time. Rugby League is a game where if your forwards don't dominate or compete closely then you lose. We're getting hammered up front & rolled down the pitch and R.A. has acknowledged this. The Catalan game seems to have 'burned out' some of the forwards??

The concerning thing is if the replacement forwards are no better (James,Eliis,Mariano etc) then its going to be a long painful season & we'll be rooted to the bottom of the table this season instead of second bottom.
There was talk of needing a prop but just one player wouldn't change this around.

Player of the year then for 2 good passes.

Re: after having chance to 'calm down dear' : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:35 pm  

asmadasa wrote:

On paper I thought we were a better team in terms of 'ability' than last years squad but something has gone wrong big time in the last 2 games. Only those inside the changing room can say what.

Agar has not got the response that he & WTW needed and now he has a real problem - turning the team completely around & taking on (and competing at least with) two of the best teams in SL one of which are the World Club champions.

Agar needs to focus on the pack because with no go forward or hard hitting shuddering consistent tackles of the opposition pack the rest of the game plan falls by the wayside as its hurried off the back foot stuff.

If he fails over the next 6 games & these lifeless performances continue then he must go & bring in Powell from Featherstone otherwise WTW will go backwards & lose the impetus it has gained over the last 6 months.

Cas have spent alot less than WTW haven't they although they have a SL coach who has won something?

Agar's comments on Radio Leeds tonight were so watery, vague and lacking in any appreciation of the problems that you outline and I completely agree with, it made my heart do some more sinking

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:39 pm  

charlie63wildcat wrote:

Totally correct. Our problems are totally about the forwards in my view. 1 to 7 cannot perform or be judged when they are playing behind a powder puff pack without a prop in the squad. This problem was there last season and is worse now minus Korki. Idiotic recruitment strategy in my view. Lautiti was a good headline but I would wager he is costing us the 2 hard props we need

we have no front row to speak of really. team full of second rowers. could have done with korki and dowes. at least korki wanted to play for the shirt. we seem to lack desire and aggression. if these boys can't get up for the watene trophy and the cas derby then what can enthuse them?

Re: Performance : Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:40 pm  

wildcat13 wrote:

Smith has the potential to be a good signing but our forwards are always on the back foot so he has little space to work although getting caught in your own half on the last is ludicrous.John on the other hand is looking gash and was completely anonymous tonight signing him for 3 years was just madness cos he looks like he has nothing to offer.

Smith has no passing quality whatsoever and his long passing game is a disgrace. I'd prefer Lee, BJ and G. Moore over Smithy as it currently stands.

Chase was popping out bread basket passes 20-30 yards all night.