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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:48 am  
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All very true which only leads myself and others to believe that it's bad news or no news at all.


well you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, one of those situations where you want to do right by the share holders.

we are in a crazy situation where the RFL are looking on and all the wrong things are on show.

leaving this to fester over xmas hasn't been the right decision in my eyes and the wait for the decision from Pickles was bad enough, we should of hit back with news of plan B straight away.

speculating what might happen is anybodies guess so looks like we will have to wait until the meeting.

you can get a feeling for how the fans feel on this forum as its been lifeless over the festive period :(
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:01 am  
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well you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, one of those situations where you want to do right by the share holders.

we are in a crazy situation where the RFL are looking on and all the wrong things are on show.

leaving this to fester over xmas hasn't been the right decision in my eyes and the wait for the decision from Pickles was bad enough, we should of hit back with news of plan B straight away.

speculating what might happen is anybodies guess so looks like we will have to wait until the meeting.

you can get a feeling for how the fans feel on this forum as its been lifeless over the festive period :(

lot of rumours flying round town though, sadly most of them from players or ex players, and none of them good news.
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:03 am  
Well NM wasn't going to be ready for the start of the 2012 season regardless of what Pickles decided so a Plan B was still required either way. As a supporter I would love to know what Plan B is however i'm not concerned that it hasn't been revealed. I accept i'm probably in a minority here though.
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:07 am  
As stated earlier in the thread, there is a plan B, but the exact details of it are still being ironed out. It was only a couple of weeks ago that we knew what extent we needed plan B for, although it was always a possibility.

We have a full season at BV to look forward to, it is a while before we submit out SL application and even longer before any decisions are taken (assuming they haven't already been taken).

Just be a bit more patient! :wink:
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:09 am  
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Well NM wasn't going to be ready for the start of the 2012 season regardless of what Pickles decided so a Plan B was still required either way. As a supporter I would love to know what Plan B is however i'm not concerned that it hasn't been revealed. I accept i'm probably in a minority here though.

some of the other intresting opinions are coming from people i know who are close to barnsley fc, but they will also say they cant be sure, basically theres a plan b ok, but it relies on a franchise, without that we dont need oakwell, however i have to be clear here this was over xmas and beer was involved!
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:18 am  
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some of the other intresting opinions are coming from people i know who are close to barnsley fc, but they will also say they cant be sure, basically theres a plan b ok, but it relies on a franchise, without that we dont need oakwell, however i have to be clear here this was over xmas and beer was involved!

Which makes sense. Without a license i'm sure playing out of Oakwell is not financially viable.
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:19 am  
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As stated earlier in the thread, there is a plan B, but the exact details of it are still being ironed out. It was only a couple of weeks ago that we knew what extent we needed plan B for, although it was always a possibility.

We have a full season at BV to look forward to, it is a while before we submit out SL application and even longer before any decisions are taken (assuming they haven't already been taken).

Just be a bit more patient! :wink:


TRB, This is all well and good, but a properly run business would have identified all potential outcomes re the newmarket planning application and therefore had appropriate discussions for all options required with the owners of the stadium that was Plan B ages ago. Variations on the future business plan and SL application could then have been produced in advance.

As usual we are being reactive rather than proactive, and Im afraid that is why with the current BOD in charge we are always doomed to lurch from one crisis to another crisis.

A financial input from a new investor would obviously help the club, but I think the appointment of some proactive people with a proven business record to the BOD to replace some of the deadwood, would in itself improve our future prospects (regardless of any fresh cash)
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:19 am  
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:20 am  
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As stated earlier in the thread, there is a plan B, but the exact details of it are still being ironed out. It was only a couple of weeks ago that we knew what extent we needed plan B for, although it was always a possibility.

We have a full season at BV to look forward to, it is a while before we submit out SL application and even longer before any decisions are taken (assuming they haven't already been taken).

Just be a bit more patient! :wink:

Ive grown to hate that wink!!! :BOW: :BOW:
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Re: Is James Elston Pinocchio??? : Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:27 am  
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Following the announcement that planning for Newmarket had been called in, there should have been a clear and defined statement from the club to appease the doubts of the fans, this would have been far more helpful than the statement made by TR. If there is nothing set in stone that would not have mattered.


Couldn't agree more.

As already said, the SOS decision was always a chance event, which means in all probabilities we would have a negative response. Judging by the clubs response we certainly were not ready for this. In the Wakey Express a Barnsley spokesman said nothing had been agreed. We should of had an agreement ( in principle) in place that could give us a safety net. The fact we were lead to believe this by James Elston is very annoying. In these uncertain times all we have coming from the club is Teds ranting!

Nearly every fan I have talked to over Christmas has just about had enough and are ready for jacking in. I'm talking life long fans here. The clubs silence had lead to a perception that "Chancer Ted" has gambled the whole clubs future on the Newmarket decision. Something I find hard to disagree with.
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