Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:55 pm  

Sandal Wild Cat wrote:

Funny how these officials chose the day after a general election being called to voice their opinions.
Correct me if i'm wrong TRB but hadn't Leeds Council been consulted all along about various issues, one of which was traffic and highways.

Now we have politicians riding the wave of ill informed scaremonger's, I would be scared but i know the planners have accommodated these issues into the plans, i know because i have read the plans myself, pity some residents don't do the same, they could save themselves a big slab of humble pie when Yorkcourt get the green light come July.

Yes objections close on the 8th.

And on that note, where are all the council officials who were so vocal during the Thornes Park affair. They were very happy to add their political weight in order to prevent the TP development yet all stated their support for building the stadium somewhere else.

Bill Sanders and co should make their opinions known once again, before anyone points out that its not in their ward, it is in the interests of their constituants that we get these facilities.

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:04 pm  

WF4 wrote:

I can kinda see their point. If Giants were making a Rugby League complex near Lepton (our backyard so to speak) with a huge industrial site I'd be at odds and I don't even live near there so traffic and flooding wouldn't even be an issue. I was upset at the Grange Moor site, it's what you see on the horizon looking out of Wakefield now. I'd want the Wakefield Express/YEP to throw a spanner in the works.

I'm all for our project though (but not so much the units, so many warehouses going bust) as we don't have a 'City' stadium and our district is a vast and populated one, the proposed land is no oil painting either...

No one consulted me about building an arena near Elland Road and I doubt any of the Leeds Councillors spared a second thought for people in Wakefield when they threw their support behind the arena project!

I have to travel from junction 40 into Leeds via the ring road, which passes Elland Road at least eight or ten times a week. Many of those journeys are made between the hours of 5PM and 7PM, So when the New Leeds Arena is holding an event I'm going to be stuck in queues of traffic, which could triple the time it takes to do my journey.

I wouldn't have objected to it anyway because I'm not petty enough to stand in the way of a very positive project that will not only enhance the lives of people who attend the arena, but will also create a large number of permanent jobs.

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:16 pm  

The Clan wrote:

No one consulted me about building an arena near Elland Road and I doubt any of the Leeds Councillors spared a second thought for people in Wakefield when they threw their support behind the arena project!

I have to travel from junction 40 into Leeds via the ring road, which passes Elland Road at least eight or ten times a week. Many of those journeys are made between the hours of 5PM and 7PM, So when the New Leeds Arena is holding an event I'm going to be stuck in queues of traffic, which could triple the time it takes to do my journey.

I wouldn't have objected to it anyway because I'm not petty enough to stand in the way of a very positive project that will not only enhance the lives of people who attend the arena, but will also create a large number of permanent jobs.

If WMDC wants this & Leeds want a fight over it we should use the Leeds Arena card as quickly as possible, Sheffield Council still want to put a stop to that, and have been "recruiting" councils to back them up. While we are located close to Leeds and one would assume would support this exciting venture how bad would it look if WMDC spoke out publicly against it and jumped on the "Yorkshire already has an arena" bandwagon.
These things work both ways.

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:20 pm  

No doubt the councillors and the people that are objecting to these proposals are probably on mega bucks every month, they don't care if this project creates a few thousand jobs for a few thousand grateful people.

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:25 pm  

Thefeeling wrote:

No doubt the councillors and the people that are objecting to these proposals are probably on mega bucks every month...

or are retired and have their mortgage paid off!

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:41 pm  

Guys, calm down, well just a little!

The new seat of Elmet and Rothwell is now a marginal and is no. 107 of the Tories hit list. The old seat of Elmet was Tory but now Rothwell has been added it would be predicted to be a Labour Seat and the Tories requiring a projected 11.4% swing (based on 2005 results from both seats) to them to take this new seat. As such it is no surprise to me that all the candidates are all making a fuss of what would appear (and I use the term appear quite purposefully) to be a rising local issue. They might currently be local councillors but one of them will be the MP soon and they all want it to be them.

What better way to bring about local support and votes by saying they object to it. Of course, it has nothing to do with them and is outside their constituency, but which ever one wins the seat will I am sure fight hard, even against their own party, to stop this development! When they don't succeed (which they probably won't) they will be of course tell everyone how hard they tried and ultimately they did everything they could. You need to think sly now, that is what they are doing!

Also for the Tory, it is next to the seat that Ed Balls currently occupies and also will contest in the new Outwood & Morley seat. Although the Tories are not targeting the seat as such, as the predicted swing required is huge (20%), they are going all out to attack Balls personally and as a current government Minister and Anthony Calvert is talking about a possibly 'Portillo' moment! They would like to see Balls majority reduced substantially at best.

As for Leeds City Council as a whole, Ed Balls, Anthony Calvert, the Lib Dem (????), the three current councillors for ward 15 (Stanley & Outwood) and the candidates for ward 15 are all keeping (in public) quiet... at least for the moment! That should tell you much about what you need to know!

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:46 pm  

You are Jon Snow, and I claim my £5!

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:54 pm  

Oh, and also the largest employers and the majority of the jobs in which will be their new constituency of Elmet and Rothwell, do not rely on these types of developments or lower skilled workers however, Outwood and Morley does!

To quote the BBC website about both areas -

"Elmet and Rothwell is a mixture of rural communities and small towns stretching around the east of Leeds. Its electoral wards are Garforth and Swillington, Harewood, Kippax and Methley, Rothwell and Wetherby. The constituency is named after the town of Rothwell and the last Celtic kingdom in Britain to be overrun by the Anglo-Saxons.

Rothwell is the main market town in the former mining area, which also includes the smaller Garforth and Swillington. These are all now primarily commuter towns for Leeds. Though all the mines have been closed, many former miners still live in the vicinity with associated health problems.

To the north is the affluent market and racing town of Wetherby.

Outwood & Morley

"The areas traditional industries, such as textiles in Morley and mining in Outwood, have all but vanished, but the constituency has made a good recovery, buoyed by a diversified economy and the proximity to the booming city of Leeds.

The constituency is at the crossroads of the M1 and M62 motorways, and employers include engineering and distributive trades, many on industrial estates.

The area has become commuter territory and new housing is threatening to join up the villages between the two cities into something more like a single giant suburb."

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:58 pm  

bren2k wrote:

:CLAP:

You are Jon Snow, and I claim my £5!

No, and actually I have proof because I actually (literally & physically) bumped into him just up from Holborn Circus the other year... so we have been seen together in public! True story!

Re: Half Page Bad News Story re Stadium in YEP : Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:34 pm  

A number of points: 1 It's a bad news story - but the last 2 paragraphs answer the first dozen -without divulging much detail. 2 It was seemingly the prospective MP's who contacted YEP - who knows. 3 IF YEP wanted to put a balanced feature together - then they know where to come? 4 I seriously wonder where Tony Gardner lives - he was not very receptive! 5 They have quoted the 4% figure - which is wholly inaccurate. 6 They are seen on the site (as KK pointed out) which is private! 7 They are LEEDS Mp's - not Wakey - and should do their homework before sticking their nebs in! 8 Leeds councillors may be in the dark (through lack of doing their own research), but LCC are well aware of what is proposed and have had a say in it's production. It's not nice to see stuff like this, but we remain confident that what is proposed is proportional, representative of the needs of this authority (and fits a bigger picture for the region), is well put together technically and will meet all or most of the criteria required of it. Keep strong folks - and if you haven't registered support by now - go to the swag website - http://www.swag-online.co.uk- and do it - NOW!

A number of points: 1 It's a bad news story - but the last 2 paragraphs answer the first dozen -without divulging much detail. 2 It was seemingly the prospective MP's who contacted YEP - who knows. 3 IF YEP wanted to put a balanced feature together - then they know where to come? 4 I seriously wonder where Tony Gardner lives - he was not very receptive! 5 They have quoted the 4% figure - which is wholly inaccurate. 6 They are seen on the site (as KK pointed out) which is private! 7 They are LEEDS Mp's - not Wakey - and should do their homework before sticking their nebs in! 8 Leeds councillors may be in the dark (through lack of doing their own research), but LCC are well aware of what is proposed and have had a say in it's production. It's not nice to see stuff like this, but we remain confident that what is proposed is proportional, representative of the needs of this authority (and fits a bigger picture for the region), is well put together technically and will meet all or most of the criteria required of it. Keep strong folks - and if you haven't registered support by now - go to the swag website - http://www.swag-online.co.uk- and do it - NOW!