Re: IMG scores : Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:29 pm  

imwakefieldtillidie wrote: Can Wigan or Warrington claim Las Vegas? https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... pportunity Reckon Ste Mills should plan a trip.

imwakefieldtillidie wrote: Can Wigan or Warrington claim Las Vegas? https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/su ... pportunity Reckon Ste Mills should plan a trip.

Re: IMG scores : Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:09 am  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/super-league-clubs-alerted-to-surprise-las-vegas-recruitment-opportunity

Reckon Ste Mills should plan a trip.

Definitely so, it could pay for itself, and it would be good to see the club's name out there mixing it with the big boys. He seems the kind of guy who likes to be one step ahead of the competition, if possible as well.

If there were some prospects over the pond, I wonder how the RFL would handle their categorisation under quota rules because I can't see many clubs wasting their valuable spots on ifs and maybes. We've got to make it look enticing for all parties, to break new ground in RL and a huge potential player pool in the US.

They could maybe bring some kind of rules for potential US players to gain said traction over there where they initially don't count as quota players. Obviously, it's all pie in the sky atm, and the very early days but still, it's very interesting and a thing that's been brought up so many times over the years. How can we make use of all those thousands of top athletes who don't make the NFL or play elsewhere? Crack that and it's a huge game changer in England and Aus long term,

I know when Toronto was making their mark and talking a good game, they had some trialists come over etc but it was never done properly IMO, where they got guys trying out who had a real chance to succeed.

Re: IMG scores : Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:25 pm  

Shifty Cat wrote:

Definitely so, it could pay for itself, and it would be good to see the club's name out there mixing it with the big boys. He seems the kind of guy who likes to be one step ahead of the competition, if possible as well.

If there were some prospects over the pond, I wonder how the RFL would handle their categorisation under quota rules because I can't see many clubs wasting their valuable spots on ifs and maybes. We've got to make it look enticing for all parties, to break new ground in RL and a huge potential player pool in the US.

They could maybe bring some kind of rules for potential US players to gain said traction over there where they initially don't count as quota players. Obviously, it's all pie in the sky atm, and the very early days but still, it's very interesting and a thing that's been brought up so many times over the years. How can we make use of all those thousands of top athletes who don't make the NFL or play elsewhere? Crack that and it's a huge game changer in England and Aus long term,

I know when Toronto was making their mark and talking a good game, they had some trialists come over etc but it was never done properly IMO, where they got guys trying out who had a real chance to succeed.

If they're new to RL then they wouldn't count on the quota anyway. We'd effectively be their first RL club so would be fed trained. Same applied to John Davetanivalu the other year, and Mitieli Vulikijapani at Hull.

Re: IMG scores : Tue Dec 10, 2024 4:24 am  

Of course, simple really.

Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:48 pm  

Yet more dissatisfaction with IMG... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/i ... f443&ei=58

Yet more dissatisfaction with IMG... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/i ... f443&ei=58

Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:56 pm  

FIL wrote: Yet more dissatisfaction with IMG... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/i ... f443&ei=58 seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!) 450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!! In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile. People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.

FIL wrote: Yet more dissatisfaction with IMG... https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/i ... f443&ei=58 seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!) 450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!! In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile. People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.

Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:09 pm  

Spookisback wrote:

seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)

450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!

In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.

People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.

I honestly just wish that we could shut these moaners up. All the energy fighting and whinging against a new system and none invested in helping along its development and success.

It’s early days of a 10/11 year plan. There have been strides forward across the game. Honestly they should stop giving these people lip service and have proper reviews based on results year on year.

Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:36 pm  

Spookisback wrote:

seems the world is full of whingers and complainers... every thing is wrong... and when you change it, that's wrong too. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with setting minimum standards and sticking to it... even though if they had done that right the first time Trinity would now be in obscurity... quite frankly I'm excited about the future of the sport in the UK under the guidance of IMG (one of the most successful sports marketing organisations in the world... ever!)

450k is a drop in the ocean even in the world of rugby league... and to make sustainable change one has to do it from a position of stability and surety... and after watching the wretched effort of the game's administrators for 50 years, to even reach a position of stability would take quite some re-imagining!!!

In the UK, rugby league is a minor sport played by a few people with a smaller than average spectator base. Grow steadily and introduce world changing ideas onto a foundation of stone... too many times we have built our ambitions on sand, but that takes patience... something humans seem to have cast onto the unwanted pile.

People like Hearn are attractive because they have had relative success with other minor sports... however Hearn will not get UKRL because he wont get near the NRL and his success has been based on wholly owning a sport or gaining control through hegemony.... the NRL is a commercial juggernaut in Australia and NZ. So IMHO if UKRL is to gain any form of success, it needs to live by it's own coaching mantra and stick to the game plan.

Completely agree, there is no long term strategic thinking at all. It's not delivered a £40m per year contract in year two so it's a failure, let's go back to what we've done for the past 30 years which has got the sport into the state it is.

IMG are raising standards and pushing RL into the 21st century sporting psyche. The only way we get an improved tv deal is if we get a bidding process for the rights. We get more eyes on the sport other broadcastes will look at the game.

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Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:58 pm  

Agree with all the above. Stick with it. It's a long term plan.

Re: IMG scores : Wed Feb 12, 2025 10:59 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Completely agree, there is no long term strategic thinking at all. It's not delivered a £40m per year contract in year two so it's a failure, let's go back to what we've done for the past 30 years which has got the sport into the state it is.

IMG are raising standards and pushing RL into the 21st century sporting psyche. The only way we get an improved tv deal is if we get a bidding process for the rights. We get more eyes on the sport other broadcastes will look at the game.

Short sighted stupidity is what it is.

It’s quite simple. The IMG criteria is there to monitor and record things such as growth in actual numbers for engagement, infrastructure and strengthening on and off the pitch.

When a business is at the next table to negotiate, the RFL will be in a much stronger position as there will be data and analysis available on the sport, right down to club level. This can be used as leverage and to justify investment in the sport.

Increase in engagement, attendances, interactions for individual clubs will be rising. New screens, LEDs and increase sponsorship and businesses interested. All this increases the bargaining power for better investment BUT it will be gradual and take time.

I can imagine the RFL went to the table with very little data and not ur themselves in a corner. Well, next time at the table they should have much more data and I would hope that it’s used to full effect.

If these media outlets and people were to invest in positive articles to drive the growth it would help get there faster. But no, better to be combative and a stick in the mud. So short sighted it’s laughable.