Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:16 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

That’s not what I was saying. I don’t think anyone would ever suggest a player is bigger than the club.

I don’t know Murphy personally or are privy to players opinions or thoughts of the club like you to say that his heart was never at the club. I never saw anything short of bags of effort from the lad though.

I’m happy with what we got but Murphy would have been a good signing and no doubt will be a good signing for saints.

Read it again .
Where did I say YOU said he was bigger than the club?

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:20 pm  

Amazes people question player commitment

Murphy was out of contract at wakefield. Had an offer to stay at wakefield but chose Sydney.

Who wouldn’t …. NRL minimum wage (significantly more than we could have offered) and the opportunity to test himself in the Roosters environment was too good to miss out on IMO

Saints now have come in offered him a deal at one of the if not the biggest club in SL.

Good luck to him.

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:23 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

Read it again .
Where did I say YOU said he was bigger than the club?

Then why would you respond to my post saying that no player is bigger than the club. Nobody had suggested he was until you quoted my post. It’s reasonable for me to think that’s what you believed in that circumstance or why mention or question it.

If you meant that it’s your opinion then that’s fine but that wasn’t clear. I’m pretty sure not one fan would value any player over the club anyway.

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:27 pm  

Criggcat wrote:

Amazes people question player commitment

Murphy was out of contract at wakefield. Had an offer to stay at wakefield but chose Sydney.

Who wouldn’t …. NRL minimum wage (significantly more than we could have offered) and the opportunity to test himself in the Roosters environment was too good to miss out on IMO

Saints now have come in offered him a deal at one of the if not the biggest club in SL.

Good luck to him.

That’s the thing though.

Croft and Shaw had a contract offer and did not sign it. They then were unable to take a contract in the UK until after their 23rd? Birthday unless it was with Trinity. They signed for French and Australian clubs. As no club would pay a fee we finally agreed a contract with them as we needed them also.

How is this scenario different to that? If as you say trinity offered a contract then other clubs in uk shouldn’t be able to sign him without paying a fee should they?

I see no difference in the Croft/Shaw/Murphy situations unless it’s been changed or club agreed to relinquish any fees etc.

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:33 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Then why would you respond to my post saying that no player is bigger than the club. Nobody had suggested he was until you quoted my post. It’s reasonable for me to think that’s what you believed in that circumstance or why mention or question it.

If you meant that it’s your opinion then that’s fine but that wasn’t clear. I’m pretty sure not one fan would value any player over the club anyway.

I was really agreeing with you about TJ and LW
It is my opinion that no player is bigger than a club .
I don't seek conflict with you but never have understood the Murphy 'love in' thing. Again just my opinion

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:43 pm  

Belle Vue wrote:

Surprised as I thought we would have been able to sign Murphy up on the same basis as we signed Johnstone?
Therefore easily outbidding any other interested parties… stains have either paid big bucks or we were not prepared to go mad on his wages..

Saints don't pay big money to their wingers..

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:14 pm  

newport dave wrote:

Saints don't pay big money to their wingers..

So out of interest…
What bargain price do you think his saints contract is per year then?

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 3:42 pm  

Well, in my opinion I don't think LM was ever thinking of coming back to us, just my opion, but not sour grapes, good look to the lad, but onwards & upwards for Wakey.

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:47 pm  

1315trinity wrote:

I was really agreeing with you about TJ and LW
It is my opinion that no player is bigger than a club .
I don't seek conflict with you but never have understood the Murphy 'love in' thing. Again just my opinion

Fair enough. We are on the same page about being happy with TJ and Walmsley. TJ vs Murphy will be a fun battle next season!

I don’t see Murphy in the same light as TJ. Murphy has alot of potential but TJ has always been special and he’s my favourite player too! I even watch Catalans last few seasons just to see him play so I’m made up he’s returning.

I don’t disagree no player is bigger than the club if it was just a general point that’s fair enough. I agree with that and think the same in general.

I do wonder if any talks took place but who knows. Maybe in the future we will see him in trinity colours. Maybe not.

More big points for Trinity academy of recent years.

Re: Lewis Murphy : Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:48 pm  

newport dave wrote:

Saints don't pay big money to their wingers..

I suspect they pay a similar rate to the rest of superleague.