Re: Stadium and other issues : Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:48 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Seen the shop on Doncaster Road is now for sale. Wonder if Trinity will be making enquires.

Don’t think it would offer any sort of benefit tbh. There’s very little space there to do much with for what it may cost.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:52 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

Don’t think it would offer any sort of benefit tbh. There’s very little space there to do much with for what it may cost.

Was thinking some sort of cafe/bar/fan zone pre match.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:03 pm  

Khlav Kalash wrote:

Was thinking some sort of cafe/bar/fan zone pre match.

We have those planned and having a car park between a fan zone and stadium wouldn’t be great.

We are having a new sports bar/restaraunt in south west corner this off season. Which will offer plenty of pre match space. Also there is the foyer areas which appear sufficient at the moment.

The other plans I’m sure showed some outdoor seating for a bit of an outdoor fan social area. This could be done at a fraction of what I’d imagine it would cost to buy the building and refurbish it.

For what it would cost and the size of it I can’t see it being a worthwhile investment.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sat Jun 22, 2024 6:23 pm  

I’m not sure how attractive it will be for prospective new tenants or owners, it’s now surrounded by the clubs car park and is in a strange location. If the club waits long enough the price is likely to fall and it maybe become more financially viable to aquire it.

At the very least it will offer a few more car parking spaces and give the club full control over the area

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:17 pm  

The Avenger wrote:

I’m not sure how attractive it will be for prospective new tenants or owners, it’s now surrounded by the clubs car park and is in a strange location. If the club waits long enough the price is likely to fall and it maybe become more financially viable to aquire it.

At the very least it will offer a few more car parking spaces and give the club full control over the area

That would be an expensive 10 or so car park spaces. Money better spent elsewhere. You could probably build a multi storey section for the same price as purchase, demolisent or refurbishment.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:13 pm  

Suppose it could be a kitchen showroom?!

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sat Jun 22, 2024 11:49 pm  

Trojan Horse wrote:

That would be an expensive 10 or so car park spaces. Money better spent elsewhere. You could probably build a multi storey section for the same price as purchase, demolisent or refurbishment.

Although I generally agree with you, I've just been having a look at the space it takes up & although that flat-roof showroom doesn't look that big from the road, I only noticed once we'd had our last stand taken down that they had a decent sized extension at the back that's bigger. I just measured the piece of land it sits on, it's around 450m/2 so a fairly decent-sized bit of land. If the club could get the building at the right place say 150k, it may be worth a conversation about. Tbh over the years, I've always been amazed that people have kept different businesses going there all these years. I do think though, after our takeover and improvements in that area of the ground, I bet they'd have a bit of trouble selling it. Anyway Matt has plenty of plans and ideas of what he wants to do to the bar & East Stand etc, so he'd probably got enough on his plate but you never know for the right price.

The main issue is the house that sits next to it. If we could get both and level them, that could open a few more possibilities for the club, whether that's some sort of out-of-ground area for fans, to get in some food trucks, stalls etc, a bit like Hull KR. At the very least it would certainly look so much cleaner and nicer entering or driving past because the house in particular is a bit of an eyesore, blocking everyone from seeing our lovely new stand etc . If that house that's been converted to 2 came up for sale, I wouldn't be surprised if Matt at least enquired to see what possibilities there could be. I would bet he's already thought about it tbh.

Saying all thsi and getting back to your original point, when all is said and done we'd be talking about £1/2 a million to get both and then you think what could be done inside the ground etc for that kind of money. Just for a few hundred square meters of extra land. As you say for what we get it'd be awfully expensive, unless you did it just to make the Trinity entrance and area around it so much cleaner and professional in front of the Club if you like, but I bet Matt isn't that bothered about wasting his hard earned cash that way.

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:17 am  

Although the Aussie contingent at present live up on the new estate near Stanley ferry , would it not be a great opportunity to get this huge house if it becomes available for these young overseas players .

Re: Stadium and other issues : Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:49 am  

Kettykat wrote:

Although the Aussie contingent at present live up on the new estate near Stanley ferry , would it not be a great opportunity to get this huge house if it becomes available for these young overseas players .

If your talking about purposing as a housing space for overseas.
Not when you can rent out a property for 700-1000 per month absolutely not. To rent a good quality place you’d look at £12,000 a year for 2/3 sharing. Why spend hundreds of thousands and have the hassle of upkeep.

If and I don’t think it’s efficient use of funds there was appetite to purchase and do something with the building/land. I would look to maximise earning potential or utilisation.

I’d consider as a baseline.

- Drive thru coffee and cake shop open 7 days a week (as this is on a main busy road) and could make this an earner. In fact - Doboy donuts have containers around in locations locally and you could easily introduce them a space/rental in the car park area as an earner for the club. At say £350 a week rental your talking £18,200 a year into the club. At £500 a year you’re talking £26,000. In Castleford there’s a two tier container with a DOBOY upper and a cafe lower. You could be talking £36,400 - £52,000 per year for small area/few parking spaces sacrifice.

- a training centre or classroom centre that could be utilised for training etc and rentable space for training events or educational events.

- a fitted out gymnasium/indoor training centre for player use. Would need to look and see if it’s viable.

These are what would run through my mind to generate some payback or utilisation.

Bottom line is, if it doesn’t have a payback in monetary terms or utilisation value then no point.

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Re: Stadium and other issues : Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:19 am  

Trojan Horse wrote:

If your talking about purposing as a housing space for overseas.
Not when you can rent out a property for 700-1000 per month absolutely not. To rent a good quality place you’d look at £12,000 a year for 2/3 sharing. Why spend hundreds of thousands and have the hassle of upkeep.

If and I don’t think it’s efficient use of funds there was appetite to purchase and do something with the building/land. I would look to maximise earning potential or utilisation.

I’d consider as a baseline.

- Drive thru coffee and cake shop open 7 days a week (as this is on a main busy road) and could make this an earner. In fact - Doboy donuts have containers around in locations locally and you could easily introduce them a space/rental in the car park area as an earner for the club. At say £350 a week rental your talking £18,200 a year into the club. At £500 a year you’re talking £26,000. In Castleford there’s a two tier container with a DOBOY upper and a cafe lower. You could be talking £36,400 - £52,000 per year for small area/few parking spaces sacrifice.

- a training centre or classroom centre that could be utilised for training etc and rentable space for training events or educational events.

- a fitted out gymnasium/indoor training centre for player use. Would need to look and see if it’s viable.

These are what would run through my mind to generate some payback or utilisation.

Bottom line is, if it doesn’t have a payback in monetary terms or utilisation value then no point.

All these ideas need staff to run it, insurance, marketing, etc etc and all cost. And business knowhow.

I'd probably demolish but I'm going to remind myself how big it is when I go today.