Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:58 am  

Slugger McBatt wrote:

It's hard to criticise the club here, because it's a stark choice: retain an expensive player (I presume he isn't cheap) who doesn't want to be here, or let him go. If the club takes the view that it is better to cut your losses, then fine, because seing Tronc going through the motions with his bottom lip out all year is an expensive way to stick to your principles. On the other hand, you can accept that it hasn't worked out and let him go, compensation or no compensation. If you hold out for compensation and don't get it, you are stuck paying his wages and probably getting less and less value for your money each week.

Maybe they'll replace him, maybe they won't, but I presume that will be down to who is available. No point in spending the money just because it's there, because I imagine running Wakey's finances is like spinning plates, and I guess no one gets involved with Wakefield to make money.

It would seem to be irrelevant, but if we were to hold him to a contract and he played with his lip out, he is only diminishing his own value. I agree though that it isn't the preferred option. However, as the link to the aussie forum suggests, he's still performed well despite the homesickness. Yes that form may have dropped off now, but that has been since his head has been turned.

I really don't think we should release without getting something in return though. The homesickness may be an issue, but would he be so concerned about it if the chance with the Broncos hadn't turned up? If that had been the case, you could keep playing him and release him if his form dropped so badly. Chances are though, his itch has been scratched by Brisbane, and as a wealthy club I don't think it would be too difficult to play a little harder with them and get something in return. I'm sure his agent would work at that just as much as he's worked on us to get a release (assuming the comments on their forum are correct).

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:14 am  

tronc is upset at the profesionalsim at the club or lack of it. which is not hard to understand we dont exactly have the best set up ever im sure all the players talking about going to quest after a friday match is not what he is used to in queensland.

let him go, get some money for him, sign charlie leano, stop crying and get on with it

TRIN TILL WE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:35 am  

Sun Bed Kid wrote:

tronc is upset at the profesionalsim at the club or lack of it. which is not hard to understand we dont exactly have the best set up ever im sure all the players talking about going to quest after a friday match is not what he is used to in queensland.

let him go, get some money for him, sign charlie leano, stop crying and get on with it

TRIN TILL WE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Of course not - it's 12,000 miles away!

However, if they're so professional over there, how come there's been so many sex, drugs and booze scandals in recent times????

I think it is exactly what people want it to be - i.e. if Tronc wanted it to work - he could have made it. Surely the idea is to bring your own standards to the club - that is why you try and bring the best players in, isn't it?

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:47 am  

I've been to the Redback and seen how those dirty convicts party. I'd have thought Quest would be a luxury.

He really ought to appreciate the progress that has been made. It's not that long ago our esteemed owner could be seen strutting his stuff in Mustang's. Not in an M&S suit mind.

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:59 am  

Whatever the reason if he doesn't want to play for us and we aren't getting anything for him sack him off on the next plane and get someone in who actually wants to play for the Club. Dress it up how you like but he's hardly given it a chance, pathetic.

[PopTart]

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:45 am  

kingsway cat wrote:

Please elaborate as to why this is a pathetic post?

Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.

He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.

Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"

are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:18 pm  

Dont know what's been said (not going through 6 pages) but vthe few comments I have read are to say the least ill informed. Is it not possible that the club has not fullfilled all it's promises to Shane, and his story of the wife being homesick is to save the club face??

Might not be true, but until people know all the facts they should reserve judgement on the lad.

Charlie Leono anyone??

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:31 pm  

PopTart wrote:

Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.

He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.

Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"

are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.

Well without wanting to get stuck into an arguement with you also. We'l agree to disagree, I have read the post again I can see why you have got your back up- however, the points remain the same sir. I do feel that it is kind of relevent that he has become home sick within the last two weeks, the same two weeks where the interest is shown from brisbane!- THEREFORE, I am angry with the way he has conducted himself, if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry. Simple really, sorry if this post offends you yet again!

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:39 pm  

Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bullshit from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots! My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.

Re: Tronc update : Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:40 pm  

kingsway cat wrote:

Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bullshit from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots! My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.

I'd assume that was the lad who is already playing in the academy, Kurt Wilton I think he is called. Someone said he was originally from England, or at least his family was.