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| Kompany's won his appeal. When he carries on tackling like that and breaks someone's leg the FA will be co-defendents with him.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Kompany's won his appeal. When he carries on tackling like that and breaks someone's leg the FA will be co-defendents with him.'"
Absolute rubbish.....Are you soft or something??
There was nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with that tackle - If that red card had stood, it would have signalled the end of football as any kind of contact sport and would have meant the sport had simply become an exhibition for players to fairy about.
You seem to have this bizarre notion that before the Premier League era, players just went about just kicking each other??..... Yes, there were players who lacked the skill of others and would try to 'level' the playing field by using their physical attributes, but that was the magic of the game in that you would actually have a proper contest, an actual challenge for those taking part - It wasn't like nowadays where you get players like Messi and Ronaldo waltzing round in the knowledge they are virtually untouchable, because tackling is basically illegal.
I hope you don't mind me asking LGJM, but how old are you and when did you actually start watching football??....I don't mean this to be a patronising question at all, its just it might give a clue as to why you view text book tackling in such a dim light.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Absolute rubbish.....Are you soft or something??
There was nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with that tackle - If that red card had stood, it would have signalled the end of football as any kind of contact sport and would have meant the sport had simply become an exhibition for players to fairy about.
You seem to have this bizarre notion that before the Premier League era, players just went about just kicking each other??..... Yes, there were players who lacked the skill of others and would try to 'level' the playing field by using their physical attributes, but that was the magic of the game in that you would actually have a proper contest, an actual challenge for those taking part - It wasn't like nowadays where you get players like Messi and Ronaldo waltzing round in the knowledge they are virtually untouchable, because tackling is basically illegal.
I hope you don't mind me asking LGJM, but how old are you and when did you actually start watching football??....I don't mean this to be a patronising question at all, its just it might give a clue as to why you view text book tackling in such a dim light.'"
Spot on that pal. The game is in danger of becoming a none contact sport.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"You seem to have this bizarre notion that before the Premier League era, players just went about just kicking each other??..... Yes, there were players who lacked the skill of others and would try to 'level' the playing field by using their physical attributes, but that was the magic of the game in that you would actually have a proper contest, an actual challenge for those taking part - It wasn't like nowadays where you get players like Messi and Ronaldo waltzing round in the knowledge they are virtually untouchable, because tackling is basically illegal.
I hope you don't mind me asking LGJM, but how old are you and when did you actually start watching football??....I don't mean this to be a patronising question at all, its just it might give a clue as to why you view text book tackling in such a dim light.'"
I don't really buy into this that tackling is illegal. Tackling is fine but the game was particularly imbalanced in favour of defenders IMO. The game still massively favours defenders and defensive players, but referees had to start giving attackers something as players could relentlessly foul without consequence. Furthermore, the game is played at such a speed now that a simple raised stud can result in a snapped bone. There are plenty of footballers that have mastered the art of the tackle without being dangerous or reckless. Mascherano was one, Alessandro Nesta another. Look around Europe and even England and you'll see plenty of players who are fantastic tacklers but very rarely put the opponent in a dangerous position. The game evolves, defenders already get away with a lot and they'll probably begin to get away with less and less as the game progresses.
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Quote flipper="flipper"Think you are right by the sounds of it, I know he was a regular out and about in Manchester, something of a problem drinker by the sounds of it
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too much - too young, it's where the game is at and it will cause other (wealthy) casualties'"
Injuries didn't help him either. He looked like he had good potential when he burst onto the scene, can't believe City have kept him on so long to be honest.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Absolute rubbish.....Are you soft or something??
I hope you don't mind me asking LGJM, but how old are you and when did you actually start watching football??....I don't mean this to be a patronising question at all, its just it might give a clue as to why you view text book tackling in such a dim light.'"
answer is - obviously not in the days of Norman 'bite yer legs' Hunter, Chppoer Harris or the superb Dave MacKay(who broke his leg twice in the same place and still had a great career) - the game has changed - it's no longer a mans game - modern day players wouldn't last two minutes with the likes of the aforementioned....
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Absolute rubbish.....Are you soft or something??
There was nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with that tackle - If that red card had stood, it would have signalled the end of football as any kind of contact sport and would have meant the sport had simply become an exhibition for players to fairy about.
You seem to have this bizarre notion that before the Premier League era, players just went about just kicking each other??..... Yes, there were players who lacked the skill of others and would try to 'level' the playing field by using their physical attributes, but that was the magic of the game in that you would actually have a proper contest, an actual challenge for those taking part - It wasn't like nowadays where you get players like Messi and Ronaldo waltzing round in the knowledge they are virtually untouchable, because tackling is basically illegal.
I hope you don't mind me asking LGJM, but how old are you and when did you actually start watching football??....I don't mean this to be a patronising question at all, its just it might give a clue as to why you view text book tackling in such a dim light.'"
I'm 39. Went to the same school as Andy Booth, who went on to make hundreds of appearances for Huddersfield Town and was exposed by Tottenham and Sheff Weds in the Premier League as being a HTFC player.
I was heavily pushed towards rugby by the motivation of a trip to Wembley, so RL was my my main game but I still was generally a football obsessed kid. I was picked in the squad for the junior school team the year before everyone else, but I'd kind of lied about having boots so never showed for the game. I was pretty much a superstar for the cubs team, a good player for the school team, a yo/yo starter/sub for the town boys team. 4th year of primary school I was in the town boys football and RL squads. 5th year of primary school I was in the RL squad only, but hey, we were playing at Wembley!
So I was a pretty good player, but I knew there was a difference between the pretty good players like me and the HTFC prospect Booth, and even more so a kid called Anthony Barrett, who was a future PL player (at that time). Barrett was a dual superstar, and I had a lesson in both football and rugby from him. In rugby I was going to break round him and go on to score, but that kinda didn't happen and it was Barrett who was touching down a few seconds later. That pretty much never happened to me in rugby. In football I went in with a 50/50 ball with him, we both played the ball sidefooted at the same time, for all I knew we were doing the same thing, but he emerged dribbling with the ball downfield, I was left dazed for a good few seconds wondering which invisible force had hit me and sent a shock wave through half of my body. So I do know there's a difference between the tackling techniques of good players and even better ones.
So I've been a footie obsessed kid all my life. Had the "pleasure" of watching Vinnie Jones kick people for my team.
(Jesus I'm getting old. Offering my life story to a simple question.  )
Kompany's tackle is not a text book tackle. As I said earlier in the thread, it was a pussies tackle. It was just short of a two footed tackle, a 1.8 or 9 footed tackle. It's a tackle that has been text book outlawed. Kompany could have won that ball cleanly had he moved forward and dribbled past Wilshire (?). But why mess about with a 52/48 and have to mess around with the ball when you can hold back, jump in with studs showing and your trailing leg following close behind and put all the risk of injury on your opponent? "Wilshire's a decent ball player. Let's see how good he is for the next ten minutes when he's trying to run off the pain I put him through."
This time there was no injury. But there was definitely recklessness from Kompany. He jumped in, he had no control. On another day he'd have been snapping an ankle. **** that tackle, **** Kompany, **** the FA, **** Alan Hansen who doesn't understand it's not 1985 any more, and **** everyone who gets misty eyed for the good old days when players had to player through assaults every match. Football is better for allowing the talents of Ronaldo and Messi to shine. If you want to watch throwback football, watch Stoke City. When Robert Huth does that tackle on Aguero and snaps his leg you'll go deaf at the whining from Mancini and Kompany.
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| Quote flipper="flipper"I see class and dignity as still going strong'"
Pride as well. Now only is the **** so much of a **** he gets that tattoo, but he also wants to brag about it.
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| Just seen on the Reuters newswire that Guardiola is confirmed as taking over at FC Bayern for next season
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| Quote John_D="John_D"Just seen on the Reuters newswire that Guardiola is confirmed as taking over at FC Bayern for next season'"
It looks like Pep threw the media off the scent with his desire to manage in the Premiership
You can understand why he chose Bayern,.... guaranteed C.L football and at least a trophy every season,fantastic set up with prominent football people in key positions who know what they are doing.
So who will Chelsea turn to now if they couldn't re-hire Mourinho?
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| Quote John_D="John_D"Just seen on the Reuters newswire that Guardiola is confirmed as taking over at FC Bayern for next season'"
Congrats on your call.
Is the retirement of the present coach his own choice, or was it made for him?
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When I heard about Guardiola being confirmed for Bayern my first thought was that it made the return of Jose much more likely. If that's what happens, I'm absolutely delighted that Guardiola has gone to Bayern.
The continual barracking of Benitez has received stick from the media, but from CFC fans point of view what we don't want is a dreadful, wrong part team appointment to become a permanent one. If Roman has exhausted his ability to appoint top level managers then it does serve him right, but I don't want us stuck with that fat ****.
TBH the fact that we didn't have anything lined up with Guardiola makes me even more mad about the decision to get rid of Di Matteo.
I do think that if Mourinho goes to Citeh or United, we have the huge potential to be completely ****ed.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Congrats on your call.
Is the retirement of the present coach his own choice, or was it made for him?
When I heard about Guardiola being confirmed for Bayern my first thought was that it made the return of Jose much more likely. If that's what happens, I'm absolutely delighted that Guardiola has gone to Bayern.
The continual barracking of Benitez has received stick from the media, but from CFC fans point of view what we don't want is a dreadful, wrong part team appointment to become a permanent one. If Roman has exhausted his ability to appoint top level managers then it does serve him right, but I don't want us stuck with that fat ****.
TBH the fact that we didn't have anything lined up with Guardiola makes me even more mad about the decision to get rid of Di Matteo.
I do think that if Mourinho goes to Citeh or United, we have the huge potential to be completely ****ed.'"
If its no way Jose maybe you could get Redknapp if QPR go down?.
Must be somebody on the continent they could look at?...chance of getting Hiddink back?
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| Quote duke street 10="duke street 10"If its no way Jose maybe you could get Redknapp if QPR go down?.
Must be somebody on the continent they could look at?...chance of getting Hiddink back?'"
Hiddink's supposed to be retiring. If he wanted to manage us, I think he'd have been back before now.
If it was gonna be Redknapp, then he should have got the short term gig instead of Benitez.
We'll easily find a manager. It's still a dream job for 98% of managers. But we're quickly running out of chances to get a top manager.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Is the retirement of the present coach his own choice, or was it made for him?'"
From what I've read, it was the plan for Heynckes to retire at the end of this season from almost the moment they appointed him, but given how well Bayern are going this season there was a suggestion it could be postponed. Obviously that's nixed now.
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| With perfect timing, Frank Rijkaard has left his job as boss of the Saudi Arabian national team. Would that be someone our Chelsea brethren would be happy with?
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| I see Arry is splashing the cash again. It's his only plan. Most over rated Manager ever. Spent millions and still won f*ck all.
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Hillarious. Liverpool spend months and months telling the world he's an angel and doesn't cheat, should have had 914 penalties this season and isn't a massive racist. Then they get everyone to pump out carefully rehed press releases and interviews about how the country is victimising him and shouldn't force him out of the country.
Then he goes and admits he's a diving cheat.
Diving in the area, or a dive that directly leads to a goal should result in an automatic 1 game ban. Once Luis the cheat and his brethren started to be suspended every other week, he'd soon stop it.
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Hillarious. Liverpool spend months and months telling the world he's an angel and doesn't cheat, should have had 914 penalties this season and isn't a massive racist. Then they get everyone to pump out carefully rehed press releases and interviews about how the country is victimising him and shouldn't force him out of the country.
Then he goes and admits he's a diving cheat.
Diving in the area, or a dive that directly leads to a goal should result in an automatic 1 game ban. Once Luis the cheat and his brethren started to be suspended every other week, he'd soon stop it.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Hillarious. Liverpool spend months and months telling the world he's an angel and doesn't cheat, should have had 914 penalties this season and isn't a massive racist. Then they get everyone to pump out carefully rehed press releases and interviews about how the country is victimising him and shouldn't force him out of the country.
Then he goes and admits he's a diving cheat.
Diving in the area, or a dive that directly leads to a goal should result in an automatic 1 game ban. Once Luis the cheat and his brethren started to be suspended every other week, he'd soon stop it.'"
Stop victimising him
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| Good luck to Strachan in charge of the Jocks. Should instill a bit of pride and passion into his players.
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| If Kompany's challenge was deserving of a straight red, despite him winning the ball, not (IMO) being reckless and having very little potential for injury - as some on here would have you believe - what should Scholes have got last night for a challenge that was late, off the ground and not even in the same postcode as the ball?
Or if you've got a reputation for not being able to tackle properly, are playing for Man Utd and have one of the biggest homers in English football in charge, do different standards apply?
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Or if you've got a reputation for not being able to tackle properly, are playing for Man Utd and have one of the biggest homers in English football in charge, do different standards apply?'"
That, basically.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"If Kompany's challenge was deserving of a straight red, despite him winning the ball, not (IMO) being reckless and having very little potential for injury - as some on here would have you believe - what should Scholes have got last night for a challenge that was late, off the ground and not even in the same postcode as the ball?'"
How do you come to the conclusion there's little potential for injury from Kompany's tackle? There's little potential injury TO Kompany, that's why the pussy tackles like that, but there's clearly potential for injury if he catches someone after jumping in like that.
Scholes should have got a red too.
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| Quote John_D="John_D"With perfect timing, Frank Rijkaard has left his job as boss of the Saudi Arabian national team. Would that be someone our Chelsea brethren would be happy with?'"
No.
He'd be better than Benitez, but he's nPower Championship level compared to Mourinho. He won La Liga twice and the CL with Barca, but they're the only major honours he's won in nearly 10 years of management.
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