Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:47 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

seems ironic that EP was originally built as a RL ground !
who actually owns the ground now ? Stockport FC or the council ?
why would Sale want to invest in EP when more modern stadia already exist in the general NW area ?

Maybe to stay close to Sale. If they move any further then they could and possibly should consider a name change. There's been talk of them moving in with Salford.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:54 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

Maybe to stay close to Sale. If they move any further then they could and possibly should consider a name change. There's been talk of them moving in with Salford.

why not ? could be good for everyone !

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:57 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

why not ? could be good for everyone !

They moved in with Stockport County and now look at the state of them. I'm not suggesting anything but that is in the mind of many.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:00 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

They moved in with Stockport County and now look at the state of them. I'm not suggesting anything but that is in the mind of many.

the problem of moving in with Salford would obviously be fixture overlap so the planning would need to be well thought out - a bit like if ASAP & Cats both played at Aimée Giral for example

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:04 pm  

Catalancs wrote: Relegation place sorted in November? I think they'll go down. I think they'll struggle if they do too. They are a terrible team to watch. Leeds obviously isn't a big Rugby Union area but it's not a surprise when they play the brand of Rugby they do. The 6-3 win we had over them was a rubbish game and their tactics were awful. I went to the LV Cup game the other week and the attendance was given as 3082 but there was probably half that. It was empty. It seems a lot of the fans have had enough. In the summer there was a lot of talk of good recruiting and that they were aiming for the Heineken Cup. Newcastle aren't much better and so if they manage a win or 2 you never know, but they have Northampton on Sunday and if form is anything to go by they could see a record home defeat. If any of the folk of Leeds do decide to go and watch a game of Union for once then that's probably the game to go to. Northampton are incredible if I do say so myself

Catalancs wrote: Relegation place sorted in November? I think they'll go down. I think they'll struggle if they do too. They are a terrible team to watch. Leeds obviously isn't a big Rugby Union area but it's not a surprise when they play the brand of Rugby they do. The 6-3 win we had over them was a rubbish game and their tactics were awful. I went to the LV Cup game the other week and the attendance was given as 3082 but there was probably half that. It was empty. It seems a lot of the fans have had enough. In the summer there was a lot of talk of good recruiting and that they were aiming for the Heineken Cup. Newcastle aren't much better and so if they manage a win or 2 you never know, but they have Northampton on Sunday and if form is anything to go by they could see a record home defeat. If any of the folk of Leeds do decide to go and watch a game of Union for once then that's probably the game to go to. Northampton are incredible if I do say so myself

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:07 pm  

t-r-i-n-i-t-y wrote:

Wasn't too long ago they had 'capacity' crowds week in, week out!

To be fair, their capacity was about 16,500 2 years ago and so they've justified building the 10,000 capacity stand because the attendances are still ahead of that.

It probably is a good point though about the amount of games on tele. Leicester or Bath seem to be on every week and it's not a wonder the Northern clubs moan about a Southern bias. There's 2 games a week on ESPN and 1 on Sky. It's a lot of Rugby when last season there were some weekends when there wasn't a single game on.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:16 pm  

sanjunien wrote:

seems ironic that EP was originally built as a RL ground !

who actually owns the ground now ? Stockport FC or the council ?

why would Sale want to invest in EP when more modern stadia already exist in the general NW area ?

I find it as confusing as anybody but I think Cheshire Sports own the ground and both clubs. Brian Kennedy owns Cheshire Sports or whatever they're called and so I guess he owns both. I'm not too sure. I try to stay out of that side of it all. I'm a football fan first and foremost and so don't like to slag off Stockport, but they're their own worst enemies. There are some not nice things that have happened to them, but I wouldn't believe the words of a few bitter fans. A lot of them accept what has happened. After all, Sale don't control what happens on the pitch and we've not forced them to get beat 5-0 every week it seems.

I think it's unfair for somebody to say we would bring bad on Salford. For starters we wouldn't be buying them, we would be groundsharing. Secondly their chairman or somebody quite high up has made it quite clear that they have spent years of hard work building this ground and don't want another team sharing, or at least they don't want another team taking it over. What's the capacity gonna be? I can't see them making much money or establishing it on their own with attendances of 3k.

I personally don't want the ground share but it's probably better to share with a Rugby League club than a Football team.

Despite the ground not being brilliant, Edgeley Park is very ideal with it's motorway and public transport links. There are several trains every hour to Manchester in one direction and Macclesfield and Stoke in the other direction. These areas seem to cover the core fan base, along with buses that run to the neighbouring areas. There are plenty of pubs and places to eat nearby. It might be an old fashioned Football ground but it has character and is easy to get to. I'd rather that than some soulless stadium off a motorway with nothing for miles

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:44 pm  

The Rugby Football Union have announced their "absolute intention" not to select overseas-based players for England following the 2011 Rugby World Cup. One way to compete with the French salary cap I suppose.

The Rugby Football Union have announced their "absolute intention" not to select overseas-based players for England following the 2011 Rugby World Cup. One way to compete with the French salary cap I suppose.

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:55 pm  

Catalancs wrote: The Rugby Football Union have announced their "absolute intention" not to select overseas-based players for England following the 2011 Rugby World Cup. One way to compete with the French salary cap I suppose. Doesn't it just bring them into line with the SANZAR nations in terms of not selecting overseas based players?

Catalancs wrote: The Rugby Football Union have announced their "absolute intention" not to select overseas-based players for England following the 2011 Rugby World Cup. One way to compete with the French salary cap I suppose. Doesn't it just bring them into line with the SANZAR nations in terms of not selecting overseas based players?

Re: If you must discuss Union, do it here II : Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:20 pm  

Shark J wrote:

I find it as confusing as anybody but I think Cheshire Sports own the ground and both clubs. Brian Kennedy owns Cheshire Sports or whatever they're called and so I guess he owns both. I'm not too sure. I try to stay out of that side of it all. I'm a football fan first and foremost and so don't like to slag off Stockport, but they're their own worst enemies. There are some not nice things that have happened to them, but I wouldn't believe the words of a few bitter fans. A lot of them accept what has happened. After all, Sale don't control what happens on the pitch and we've not forced them to get beat 5-0 every week it seems.

I think it's unfair for somebody to say we would bring bad on Salford. For starters we wouldn't be buying them, we would be groundsharing. Secondly their chairman or somebody quite high up has made it quite clear that they have spent years of hard work building this ground and don't want another team sharing, or at least they don't want another team taking it over. What's the capacity gonna be? I can't see them making much money or establishing it on their own with attendances of 3k.

I personally don't want the ground share but it's probably better to share with a Rugby League club than a Football team.

Despite the ground not being brilliant, Edgeley Park is very ideal with it's motorway and public transport links. There are several trains every hour to Manchester in one direction and Macclesfield and Stoke in the other direction. These areas seem to cover the core fan base, along with buses that run to the neighbouring areas. There are plenty of pubs and places to eat nearby. It might be an old fashioned Football ground but it has character and is easy to get to. I'd rather that than some soulless stadium off a motorway with nothing for miles

can't give an opinion on EP never having been there for a match but an old mate of mine (an ex Stockport Co. player/captain of the seventies) reckons it needs upgrading & improving - this seems a mandatory requirement nowadays to try to give the maximum of comfort & facilities to the paying public don't you think ? County seem to be their own worst enemies - just when they seem to be doing ok they then shoot themselves in the foot ! which must be demoralising for the loyal County fans ? Proably a bit like being a Donny fan in RL ?