Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:15 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I thought that was basically what I had said in my previous post? We've got some fantastic indiviudals but that our squad depth is poor?

Sorry, I thought by squad players you meant those outside of the first 11 who only come in as cover. I was meaning that there are some who are first choice for you who wouldn't be good enough elsewhere.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:18 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

Hence the placing of Carragher on the bench, he has been fantastic for Liverpool and is a fantastic defender but his form has dropped and he knows it. On his day Carra can quite easily be up there with the likes of JT.

Paul Scholes has been the best English footballer of the last 20 years, doesn't mean I'd currently pick him ahead of Gerrard. And it remains to be seen if 'on his day' is a thing of the past for Carragher now.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:19 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

I'd rather Skrtel, Agger, Carragher and Gallas than Vermaelan.

Fair enough, we disagree.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:25 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

Reina, Johnson, Agger, Mascherano, Gerrard and Torres would get into Arsenal's XI.

Possibly right with Reina, I didn't really think of keepers as it's not really Liverpool's problem. Although being better than Almunia is hardly a glowing reference IMO.

Johnson and Sagna have little between them, both good in posession and suspect without. See above re Agger/Vermaelen, and Mascherano is very much the proverbial water carrier, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I certainly don't think he'd keep Fabregas out, assuming Gerrard is the other CM.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:28 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

Possibly right with Reina, I didn't really think of keepers as it's not really Liverpool's problem. Although being better than Almunia is hardly a glowing reference IMO.

Johnson and Sagna have little between them, both good in posession and suspect without. See above re Agger/Vermaelen, and Mascherano is very much the proverbial water carrier, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I certainly don't think he'd keep Fabregas out, assuming Gerrard is the other CM.

Arsenal play three midfielders. Masch is better than Song and Denilson who are both first choice regulars at Arsenal. With regards to Sagna and Johnson, they're kind of players who are opposites in ways. Sagna is solid defensively, quick and decent enough in possession, whilst johnson is terrific going forward but is lacking the brains defensively at times.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:30 pm  

Marcus Jones wrote:

I cant believe how many people rate Glen Johnson

I think it's more about the standard of fullbacks in the current game TBH, which I commented on the other day in this thread.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:35 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Arsenal play three midfielders. Masch is better than Song and Denilson who are both first choice regulars at Arsenal. With regards to Sagna and Johnson, they're kind of players who are opposites in ways. Sagna is solid defensively, quick and decent enough in possession, whilst johnson is terrific going forward but is lacking the brains defensively at times.

I suppose it's just a different approach to the question. In Arsenal's current system, yes he'd probably get in the midfield 3. I was considering it as how many Liverpool players would get in as a whole, and for me that would mean a 4-4-2, as I don't see how you could leave out one of Torres or Van Persie.

I still think Sagna has some defensive issues as well TBH, dives in and commits himself a bit too quick at times IMO.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:59 pm  

carl_spackler wrote:

I suppose it's just a different approach to the question. In Arsenal's current system, yes he'd probably get in the midfield 3. I was considering it as how many Liverpool players would get in as a whole, and for me that would mean a 4-4-2, as I don't see how you could leave out one of Torres or Van Persie.

I still think Sagna has some defensive issues as well TBH, dives in and commits himself a bit too quick at times IMO.

I'd play a kind of 4-2-3-1 but it isn't quite the same as Liverpool's. Masch would hold the midfield whilst Cesc would be a kind of box-to-box playmaker, with Gerrard playing just off Torres with RVP to the right and Arshavin to the left. Before this season, I'd have had Skrtel over most defenders in the league, I rated him so highly but this year he has been utterly woeful, he seems to have lost all composure, aggression and brains and ended up looking very poor. Vermaelen looks good but I still think a fit Daniel Agger is the superior player.

Re: More Football Chat : Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:04 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

We're already out of the top 4, are we? Almost as small time as the bluenoses with their week-long Rafa Beneathus antics

Eh, that was much longer than a week, many many months. We actually finished there remember so a whole summer of it

Robbie Rotten wrote:

I know, I'm embarrassed.

Dunno why, realistically we've been going for the same trophies for many years. You've never had a chance for the big ones

Re: More Football Chat : Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:12 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

Eh, that was much longer than a week, many many months. We actually finished there remember so a whole summer of it

Dunno why, realistically we've been going for the same trophies for many years. You've never had a chance for the big ones

The Champions League/European Cup is pretty big.
Bang on about the league though