Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:04 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

I would like to see the full list before I comment, Emmitt Smith being as low as he is, is quite comical IMO, whoever did the list needs to be tested for drugs !!

NFL.com poll vote it came up like

PLAYER A PLAYER B

Then you voted for whichever player, then it kept going round in loops so you might have got

Brady v Marshall Faulk
Marshall Faulk v Emmitt Smith
Brady v Emmitt Smith
Peyton Manning v Joe Montana

etc then the most votes won.

(unless the "experts" got a pick after the fans vote too)

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:05 pm  

People like Lawrence Taylor should be high on the list, he changed the way defence is played. In reference to greatest ever, it's hard to just base it on numbers alone as a lot of players missed time due to being involed in wars.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:08 pm  

Nikaed wrote:

People like Lawrence Taylor should be high on the list

He should, fantastic pass rusher (and the sort of on-field player Belichick needs to find again).

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:08 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Read my edited post

I agree to be fair. You can't judge a career until it conclusion really. I was just taken aback by Gaslight claiming that Brady was a shining beacon dragging a pile of poop to glory above its station. Which clearly isn't true. Brady has had an exceptional team around him with an exceptional (cheating) coach guiding the way.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:12 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

He should, fantastic pass rusher (and the sort of on-field player Belichick needs to find again).

With the exception of the early giants reams that had Landry and Lombardi as co-ordinators. The 1990 superbowl champion giants had a great cast of future coaches.

Front Office
Co-Owner - Wellington Mara
Co-Owner - Tim Mara
General Manager - George Young
Head Coaches

Head Coach - Bill Parcells

Offensive Coaches

Offensive Coordinator - Ron Erhardt

Quarterbacks -
Running Backs - Ray Handley
Wide Receivers - Tom Coughlin
Tight Ends - Mike Pope
Offensive Line - Fred Hoaglin

Defensive Coaches

Defensive Coordinator - Bill Belichick
Defensive Line - Romeo Crennel
Linebackers - Al Groh
Special Teams Coaches

Special Teams Coordinator - Mike Sweatman
Assistant Special Teams - Charlie Weis

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:39 pm  

Has anybody got the list of players where Brady ranked 21st, the video just isn't loading for me.

Thats probably a good spot really. He is maybe the 5th best QB of all time. Montana, Favre, Elway, Marino (in no particular order) above him and then a few in and around him. Obviously he could move up with a few more Superbowl wins (this time without cheating! )

Then there are other great players like Reggie White, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders etc in other positions.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:49 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote: Has anybody got the list of players where Brady ranked 21st, the video just isn't loading for me. Thats probably a good spot really. He is maybe the 5th best QB of all time. Montana, Favre, Elway, Marino (in no particular order) above him and then a few in and around him. Obviously he could move up with a few more Superbowl wins (this time without cheating! ) Then there are other great players like Reggie White, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders etc in other positions. http://top100.nfl.com/ Brady finished above Elway and Marino.

ST_CONROY wrote: Has anybody got the list of players where Brady ranked 21st, the video just isn't loading for me. Thats probably a good spot really. He is maybe the 5th best QB of all time. Montana, Favre, Elway, Marino (in no particular order) above him and then a few in and around him. Obviously he could move up with a few more Superbowl wins (this time without cheating! ) Then there are other great players like Reggie White, Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders etc in other positions. http://top100.nfl.com/ Brady finished above Elway and Marino.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:56 pm  

Adamjk wrote: http://top100.nfl.com/ Brady finished above Elway and Marino. I think that is definately wrong. Elway and particularly Marino should be above him. Also Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Ed Reed, Steve Young and Michael Irvin are ridiculously low IMO.

Adamjk wrote: http://top100.nfl.com/ Brady finished above Elway and Marino. I think that is definately wrong. Elway and particularly Marino should be above him. Also Marshall Faulk, Kurt Warner, Ed Reed, Steve Young and Michael Irvin are ridiculously low IMO.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:12 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I think that is definately wrong. Elway and particularly Marino should be above him.

Not really because Elway was really not that good, he couldn't hit a barn door at times, when he lost arm strength and gained TD he got better, Marino was just a stat machine like Rivers is now then when it matters where is he? sat at home watching.

Also there is no way Favre is or was a better QB than Brady I'd take the QB who throws less picks and makes less errors any day of the week because they will win you the championships, not cost you them like Favre has for a number of years.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:20 pm  

Gaslight, I can't tell if your posts are serious or you are on the wind-up.