Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:45 pm  

Nemanja wrote:

I thought you mentioned the new lads because you were talking about an unsettled back 4, that's the reason I mentioned all of them that'd played at the back this season for us.

I took the newer ones out. They will have unsettled the back four but haven't all played together in one match. There has been atleast 2 of the settled squad members in the back 4. Hasn't there?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:46 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

On loan for 6months was it? Still was in the squad before that.

Academy and reserves. not a regular squad memeber. Keep posting mate youre great.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:47 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

I took the newer ones out. They will have unsettled the back four but haven't all played together in one match. There has been atleast 2 of the settled squad members in the back 4. Hasn't there?

Settled squad members, yeah. Settled defenders, no. That was my main point, it doesn't matter how long they've been at United, they'll have never trained as a defender or as a defensive partnership.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:48 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

Friedel has been the best keeper around for quite some time. I just wish Liverpool would've kept him on or he signed for another big club.

Friedel was underated for years because he played for a 'small' club but now he's moved to Villa everybody is realising what Rovers fans knew for years that he is one of the best keepers the premiership has seen.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:50 pm  

Nemanja wrote:

Brad Friedel is probably the best 'keeper IMO.

Released by Liverpool, signed by Blackburn on a free. Signed by Aston Villa for £2.5m

What do you know that the managers of the top sides don't?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:50 pm  

Bevan Wire wrote:

Academy and reserves. not a regular squad memeber. Keep posting mate youre great.

You're*

Dont the reserves train with the first team nowadays?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:59 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

You're*

Dont the reserves train with the first team nowadays?

Occasionally, some get invited. Jonny 23 didnt then though as he was waaay down the pecking order. Class players can adapt and slot in at any club, Liverpool are failing because they overachieved last year, the match going reds will tell you the quality and depth of the squad isn't good enough, along with the injuries to Gerrard and Torres, Benayoun has stepped up though and been great.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:01 pm  

Bevan Wire wrote:

Occasionally, some get invited. Jonny 23 didnt then though as he was waaay down the pecking order.

Reserves and First team train together i thought?

Bevan Wire wrote:

Class players can adapt and slot in at any club, Liverpool are failing because they overachieved last year, the match going reds will tell you the quality and depth of the squad isn't good enough, along with the injuries to Gerrard and Torres, Benayoun has stepped up though and been great.

I disagree with the overachieving part of last year. But the rest i agree with.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:07 pm  

Bevan Wire wrote:

PMSL. I think your evaluations of players are usually spot on but this one isnt. id take Sagna at Arsenal or Bosingwa before Johnson. Since his addition, a very formidable defensive side has suddenly become an average defensive side. I agree that hes a very good attacking fullback but his all-round game isn't there for him to be described as best in the league.

What's more laughable is all the United fans putting Fletcher in a premier league XI. Fletcher is a good, hard working player who supports the attack well, but Michael Essien is thrice the player Fletcher is, so are Gerrard, Lampard and Fabregas, whilst I'd still rather Ballack or Mikel in my team. If it was for pure defensive ability then Mascherano would be in over Fletcher. Fletcher's a solid player but the United midfield has been pretty weak for a while now, it's competitive and industrious, but there is little class or elegance there since Scholes has been moved deeper. Admittedly, Liverpool's midfield has lost the majority of its class since Alonso has gone, but I'm not arguing our midfield is better.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:14 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

What's more laughable is all the United fans putting Fletcher in a premier league XI. Fletcher is a good, hard working player who supports the attack well, but Michael Essien is thrice the player Fletcher is, so are Gerrard, Lampard and Fabregas, whilst I'd still rather Ballack or Mikel in my team. If it was for pure defensive ability then Mascherano would be in over Fletcher. Fletcher's a solid player but the United midfield has been pretty weak for a while now, it's competitive and industrious, but there is little class or elegance there since Scholes has been moved deeper. Admittedly, Liverpool's midfield has lost the majority of its class since Alonso has gone, but I'm not arguing our midfield is better.

He's dominated Chelsea an Arsenal's midfield this season. Fletcher is world class. although I know you won't agree. Simply because he is scottish and not a fashionable name he doesnt get the credit he deserves.