Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:27 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Can't stand the Colts & Steelers and after the mass glee they took from Brady getting injured (Steelers fans even made T-shirts about it ) it's about time they started getting some injuries of their own - Collie is out for a while with the Colts too and Addai is injured.

We're getting plenty, both this season and last.

And with the glee with Jockstrap being injured.....aren't you lot doing the same now with our 53 fastly becoming 20? Of course you wouldn't be celebrating if Manning got injured?

As to Clark being out.....damn, damn and buggar. He's not a big play reciever, but a crucial one who, if you need 5 yards, he'll be there to get them.

If we get to the postseason with all these injuries, I'd be happy, anything beyond is a bonus.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:36 pm  

MSH wrote:

And with the glee with Jockstrap being injured.....aren't you lot doing the same now with our 53 fastly becoming 20? Of course you wouldn't be celebrating if Manning got injured?

I dont understand what the first half of your sentence means?!?

I dont like Manning but wouldnt wish injury on him same as any other player, but I also dont feel sorry for people who get injured either their well payed and its not as if they would lose their job through it like a bloke in a normal job could.

Although I wouldnt mind certain players missing a game against the Pats just to give us a better chance of winning natch.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:27 pm  

Anybody watched the video on NFL.com about Brady being voted the 21st best NFL player of all time. Gotta love Rod Woodson He's bang on as well, as is Jamie Dukes for once.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:33 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Anybody watched the video on NFL.com about Brady being voted the 21st best NFL player of all time. Gotta love Rod Woodson He's bang on as well, as is Jamie Dukes for once.

Apart from what 90% of what they said was y'know, crap.

Brady has equal or better stats then just about any QB going (the important stats), he has 3 rings and did it mostly with no receivers.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:42 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Apart from what 90% of what they said was y'know, crap.

Brady has equal or better stats then just about any QB going (the important stats), he has 3 rings and did it mostly with no receivers.

Fan boy opinion vs one of the all time best defensive players opinion. I'm going with Rod on this one.

Brady's very good but to say he's a better player than the all time leading rusher is stupid. As has been said. In todays NFL where you can barely sneeze near a QB without drawing a flag Marino would have posted untouchable numbers.

Do you honestly, without your bias, think there have only been 20 players ever that are better than Brady? Honestly?

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 6:47 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Fan boy opinion vs one of the all time best defensive players opinion. I'm going with Rod on this one.

Brady's very good but to say he's a better player than the all time leading rusher is stupid. As has been said. In todays NFL where you can barely sneeze near a QB without drawing a flag Marino would have posted untouchable numbers.

Do you honestly, without your bias, think there have only been 20 players ever that are better than Brady? Honestly?

3rd highest QB rating ever
3-1 in the Super Bowl
Fastest QB to 100 wins
First QB to throw 200 TD's with under 100 INT's
Most touchdowns in a single season

Woodson was hating on Brady as he ALWAYS does, same goes for that buffoon Dukes, Brady is the 2nd best QB of all time so easily a top 10 player in NFL history.

Super Peyton Manning has 2 TDs and 2 INTs in the Super Bowl, chokes on regular occasions in the playoffs and Favre has far too many picks to be even talked about in the same breath as Montana, Brady & Manning it's them 3 and the rest.

Elway lost every Super Bowl he was in without TD running for him and Marino choked hence his 0 rings.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:01 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

Patriots/Brady PR twaddle

Right ok. For starters Brady has the sixth-highest career passer rating of all time (93.5) among quarterbacks with at least 1,500 career passing attempts. So that first point is wrong.

Well done to him. I assume that's all down to him? I think you are doing a great disservice to Belichek and the rest of the Patriots. They were that good at one point that the Pats rode Matt Cassel to an 11-5 season. Though of course that was all Cassels work I assume?

Again a very impressive stat. The nature of the game in the past ensured that Marino and company wouldn't have had a chance. Hell take a look at Elway and Montana. It's a very impressive stat though.

Don't think you can count that 50 TD season under your "definition of greatness" rules. 23 of those TD's were caught by future Hall of Famer Randy Moss.

Manning chokes in the playoffs yet he's in the top 3 QB's ever? Interesting. Take a look at the stats for the 3 Superbowls Brady has won. You claim he had no support cast yet the team ran for over 90 yards on each occasion. Twice over 100.

Brady is very, very good. He may become the best of all time. But I personally wouldn't say he's even the best in the league.

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:54 pm  

I would like to see the full list before I comment, Emmitt Smith being as low as he is, is quite comical IMO, whoever did the list needs to be tested for drugs !!

I dont think players who are still active should be in the "greatest ever players" anyway FWIW.

As an example lets use Brady. He could win another 2/3 superbowls and put himself number 1 on the list or he could have 5 losing seasons and drop of the list altogether IMO

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:57 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

I would like to see the full list before I comment, Emmitt Smith being as low as he is, is quite comical IMO, whoever did the list needs to be tested for drugs !!

If Kurt Warner isn't number 1 with Marshall Faulk number 2 then

Re: NFL Chat : Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:01 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

If Kurt Warner isn't number 1 with Marshall Faulk number 2 then

Read my edited post