Re: Football Chat : Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:50 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

A kopites status:

"Get in there! F-O Hicks & Gillett, watch out Bluenoses Sunday, we're back!!"

okayyyyyyyy!!!

You mustn't forget it's all the yanks fault so once they go everything will be great again and the house that Shanks built will be at the top of the league again

I can't believe you forgot it was all the yanks fault mate

Wire_85 wrote:

Pretty confident then are you?

Quick scan of the table suggests you shouldn't be.

That's comedy gold, that's a typical kopite comeback. Perhaps you should have a little look at the league table before making a post, is it not Everton 17th and Liverpool 18th?

Re: Football Chat : Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:17 pm  

To be honest, I think your lot will beat us by 2 or 3 this weekend. You have some top players, whilst I feel we're as vulnerable as we've ever been in the past 10-20 years at the moment. Very easy pickings if your lot are up to it.

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:12 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

To be honest, I think your lot will beat us by 2 or 3 this weekend. You have some top players, whilst I feel we're as vulnerable as we've ever been in the past 10-20 years at the moment. Very easy pickings if your lot are up to it.

I really hope you're right mate, I just can't see it. Last season we wern't up for it for whatever reason and we suffered for it. Although, Newcastle game apart, we've been creating a number of goalscoring chances this season, should that trend continue I think we can score a few goals but no Jagielka at the other end is a worry as is the rumours Fellaini picked up a knock for Belgium on Tuesday night. Would you risk Torres? is it worth playing him if he's not back to 100%?

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:26 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

I really hope you're right mate, I just can't see it. Last season we wern't up for it for whatever reason and we suffered for it. Although, Newcastle game apart, we've been creating a number of goalscoring chances this season, should that trend continue I think we can score a few goals but no Jagielka at the other end is a worry as is the rumours Fellaini picked up a knock for Belgium on Tuesday night. Would you risk Torres? is it worth playing him if he's not back to 100%?

It's almost pointless playing him in this current system. The way we're playing at the moment isn't to anybody's strengths, which is why we're continually struggling. Our results, performances and general game plan has been very poor. For your lot, you have to fancy your chances, we're massively lacking confidence, players are unfit, players are being played out of position, players are in woeful form, players can't adapt to the system/tactics, poor players are playing regularly whilst the 'big guns' aren't firing/aren't there anymore. I'll never write the game off as it's a derby, but bluenoses have to be considering themselves favourites for this considering our results/performances this season.

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:12 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

It's almost pointless playing him in this current system. The way we're playing at the moment isn't to anybody's strengths, which is why we're continually struggling. Our results, performances and general game plan has been very poor. For your lot, you have to fancy your chances, we're massively lacking confidence, players are unfit, players are being played out of position, players are in woeful form, players can't adapt to the system/tactics, poor players are playing regularly whilst the 'big guns' aren't firing/aren't there anymore. I'll never write the game off as it's a derby, but bluenoses have to be considering themselves favourites for this considering our results/performances this season.

I hate going into the Derby favourties

Robbie, I don't believe you're a Liverpool fan. No offence mate, but I feel you provide a reasoned football argument without only talking about how good Liverpool are, and how great things will happen in the future. Unless all this negativity is just a cover up?

I can see a 1-1 draw. Us ahead in the 60th, you'll equalize in 77th.

If theres a winner between Wolves and West Ham we'll both be in the bottom three at the start of play. Wonder when the last time that happened was?

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:21 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

:lol:

You mustn't forget it's all the yanks fault so once they go everything will be great again and the house that Shanks built will be at the top of the league again

I can't believe you forgot it was all the yanks fault mate



That's comedy gold, that's a typical kopite comeback. Perhaps you should have a little look at the league table before making a post, is it not Everton 17th and Liverpool 18th?

Durrr

Everton 17th

Hence the reason I was wondering why so confident?

Shouldn't you be getting ready to shout murderers for 90mins then lob coins if the result doesnt go your way?


Thankfully YNWA wont be played before the start of the game due to the Liverpool fan getting killed for singing it by a gang of bluenoses, no doubt your lot would of shown lack of respect if it had.

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:35 am  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

I hate going into the Derby favourties

Robbie, I don't believe you're a Liverpool fan. No offence mate, but I feel you provide a reasoned football argument without only talking about how good Liverpool are, and how great things will happen in the future. Unless all this negativity is just a cover up?

I can see a 1-1 draw. Us ahead in the 60th, you'll equalize in 77th.

If theres a winner between Wolves and West Ham we'll both be in the bottom three at the start of play. Wonder when the last time that happened was?

It's not negativity, it's just a realistic view of things. We have a club that, over the past decade, has been completely reshaped in its tactics, methods and general way of running things; we've gone from an English club to a European club. Houllier built foundations, Rafa came in and completely revamped everything for the better, he was and is a world class coach, but his tenure had to come to an end as the relationship between all was becoming so much of a strain that it was affecting results, IMO. Although I did feel Rafa did need replacing, the choice of replacement couldn't have been any worse (well, it could have, obviously, but we brought in someone we really didn't need). Hodgson is a good coach for a side where expectations are low and the emphasis to 'play' is on the opposition. I was reading the opinion of one of his former players, he said his training sessions were the best he'd had as he set up a lot of 'real match' situations, but, he always emphasised on structure, defensive strategy and 'sitting deep', instead of pushing the side up and controlling play. If you compare that to Benitez, a coach who was heavily influenced by people like Arrigo Sacchi and Rinus Michels, he preferred his side to constantly press and chase the opposition, 'making the pitch as small as possible', yet making it as big as possible on the ball, making sure we kept possession well and controlled play. Roy's route 1 style doesn't work, that's obvious, but the choice of player he's using at the moment is also resulting in us struggling: Poulsen in midfield explains himself, Joe Cole being played centrally with little service explains itself, Torres chasing long balls with nobody within 20 yards of him explains itself, the way we set up when defending, the way we are in possession, playing players like Jovanovic out wide and Gerrard in midfield with Meireles further up, it all doesn't make sense. I like Roy as a character, he's a nice guy, but he isn't correcting his mistakes and, at his age, I find it hard to believe he's willing to change his ways to suit a club with such expectations.

The game should be a good one on the weekend, but I expect the likes of Cahill, Arteta and Pienaar to have 'too much' for us to handle, if we can get an early lead, we should be able to get a draw, but on the field we're probably in a poorer state than we are off it, IMO.

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:57 am  

Wire_85 wrote:

Durrr

Everton 17th

Hence the reason I was wondering why so confident?

Shouldn't you be getting ready to shout murderers for 90mins then lob coins if the result doesnt go your way?


Thankfully YNWA wont be played before the start of the game due to the Liverpool fan getting killed for singing it by a gang of bluenoses, no doubt your lot would of shown lack of respect if it had.

No Everton fan I have spoken to is confident! The majoroty of Blues/ Reds I have spoken to have said draw. So no blue is as confident as any Red makes out. Neither myself or Dan has said we will beat you.

I've never shouted murderers at anyone, I doubt Dan has either. I have also never lobbed a coin. Shall I tar you with the same brush as the Anny Road crew that throw p1ss and poop over the away fans in the tier below every home game??

Whats with the out pouring of grief over the YNWA not being played? What difference will it make whether its played or not? It'll just give every excuse for the opposition to say play this at your ground, play that, somebody died. I have every sympathy for the lad, and his family, but its a football match not a memorial service.

You will no doubt make reference to the Rhys Jones thing, that was different, that was a national tragedy, as was Hillsbrough, when YNWA was played at Goodison.

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:06 am  

Robbie,

What do you think of Rafa's reign? I personally thought, CL win aside, he took you backwards. Concentrated too much on Europe, brought a continental style/ tempo to a PL side and IMO neutral supporters lost a lot of respect for LFC because of Benitez and his antics of being a sore loser/ showing other teams lack of respect/ making himself look rather silly with his selections / outbursts.

Why is he so loved by some supporters?

Re: Football Chat : Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:11 am  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

No Everton fan I have spoken to is confident! The majoroty of Blues/ Reds I have spoken to have said draw. So no blue is as confident as any Red makes out. Neither myself or Dan has said we will beat you.

I've never shouted murderers at anyone, I doubt Dan has either. I have also never lobbed a coin. Shall I tar you with the same brush as the Anny Road crew that throw p1ss and poop over the away fans in the tier below every home game??

Whats with the out pouring of grief over the YNWA not being played? What difference will it make whether its played or not? It'll just give every excuse for the opposition to say play this at your ground, play that, somebody died. I have every sympathy for the lad, and his family, but its a football match not a memorial service.

You will no doubt make reference to the Rhys Jones thing, that was different, that was a national tragedy, as was Hillsbrough, when YNWA was played at Goodison.

Read it again I said I didn't want it played.

You and Dan FC must be some of a few very who don't because its not just one or two its the whole Park end and the whole away end when at Anfield that sing it.