Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:08 pm  

The problem with Liverpool's defence was this time last year they were settled.

We had Aurelio Agger/Skrtel Carra Arbeloa. This year we've had to incorporate 3 or 4 new defenders into the squad. Never good is it?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:10 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

So a goalkeeper is judged by how many goals he lets in?

Saves per shots on target would be more relavent.

LGJM - 'keepers aren't always at fault for goals.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:16 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

So a goalkeeper is judged by how many goals he lets in?

There are many different factors to consider. But when year after year one keeper conceeds less than another, it is fair to say the one conceeding less is the better keeper.

You'd better tell Chris Kirkland that every single goalkeeper in all the British leagues was better than him 2 weeks ago.

2 weeks ago every keeper in Britain did perform better than Kirkland. 90% of keepers in the British leagues would admit that even after that performance, Kirkland is a better keeper than them.

Great keeping from Cech against City BTW.

No, he was poor. But even after that poor performance, he's still done considerably better than Reina or Given this season.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:21 pm  

Reina isn't better than VDS or Cech, too many calamity moments. Johnson, Torres and Gerrard would walk into Uniteds team.

Big 4 team would be:

VDS

Bosingwa
Terry
Vidic
Evra

Lampard
Fabregas
Fletcher

Robinho
Drogba
Rooney

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:22 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

There are many different factors to consider. But when year after year one keeper conceeds less than another, it is fair to say the one conceeding less is the better keeper.

So the keeper who has a better defence infront of him or a weaker opposition attacking him is a better keeper than one that has a shit defence and facing a quality opposition?

Ok then.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:22 pm  

Bevan Wire wrote:

Reina isn't better than VDS or Cech, too many calamity moments. Johnson, Torres and Gerrard would walk into Uniteds team.

Big 4 team would be:

VDS

Bosingwa
Terry
Vidic
Evra

Lampard
Fabregas
Fletcher

Robinho
Drogba
Rooney

LOL @ You trying to get a reaction out of Liverpool fans for claiming they aint a top 4 team.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:24 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

The problem with Liverpool's defence was this time last year they were settled.

We had Aurelio Agger/Skrtel Carra Arbeloa. This year we've had to incorporate 3 or 4 new defenders into the squad. Never good is it?

VDS, Foster, Kuszczack.
O'Shea, Neville, Rafael, Brown, de Laet, Fletcher, Carrick, Brown, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Fabio, Giggs.

Each one of those has played in our back 5 this season, yet we've still got the second best defence in the Premier League to date, conceeding only three more than Chelsea, despite all of our problems.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:25 pm  

Nemanja wrote:

VDS, Foster, Kuszczack.
O'Shea, Neville, Brown, Fletcher, Carrick, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Fabio, Giggs.

Each one of those has played in our back 5 this season, yet we've still got the second best defence in the Premier League to date, conceeding only three more than Chelsea, despite all of our problems.

Played in the same team as each other for how long?

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:26 pm  

Sam Buca wrote:

Played in the same team as each other for how long?

makes no difference when forming a back four...PMSL.

Re: More Football Chat : Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:27 pm  

Bevan Wire wrote:

Reina isn't better than VDS or Cech, too many calamity moments. Johnson, Torres and Gerrard would walk into Uniteds team.

Brad Friedel is probably the best 'keeper IMO. VDS flaps far too much when crosses come in, Cech hasn't looked anywhere near as good as he was in his first couple of seasons, and he too flaps too much when a ball comes into the area.