Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:42 pm  

Vince Young is Daunte Culpepper Mk2, just he never had Randy Moss in his prime to throw to.

The problem with Young was work ethic and lack of intelligence. He is a 9-5 player , its his job. He doesn't really have a passion for the game. He won't put in the extra time it takes (offseason or extra time regular season) to be a Super Bowl QB. Thats why Fisher can't stand the guy. He had his chances and failed. Also being a low IQ person doesn't help either with his grasp of a complex offense. This is a player who takes it personal when the home crowd boos him. Threw his shoulder pads in the stands and quit.

That being said someone will always take a flyer on him, in the hope that he works it all out.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:59 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I think your QB for next season will be one of Kolb/Orton/McNabb.

McNabb would be nice.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:32 pm  

Apparently Luck is going back to Stanford for his final year. Brave decision but something which I applaud.

He'd have been #1 pick so the Panthers are in a bad spot, it also means there will be a run on the other "top" QB's, all of whom I think have some weaknessess/concerns.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:03 pm  

At least they can't call Andrew Luck a money grabber, he will lose millions if the rookie cap is brought in (which it should be), fair play to him finishing his degree let's face it his career in the NFL won't last forever and as a bonus he won't have to play for Carolina , unless they are last again next year, I guess it's possible because I think their gonna be bad for a few years to come

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:11 pm  

Apparently the Dolphins are going to offer Jim Harbaugh $8 million a year to be their coach

I don't know and would only be guessing but I would doubt say Bill Cowher/John Gruden would even get that but like I say I may be wrong!!

Maybe they will finish last and draft Andrew Luck next year

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:14 pm  

Agreed. He may well lose out on millions but money isn't everything. He gets to stay at a very well regarded academic college and get his degree (architectural design) and be "normal" for another year.

He'll still be the number 1 QB next year. Bradford went back and got injured, which is the worst case for Luck, and still went #1.

The NFL will always be there waiting for him, plus with the potential of there being no season next year it is probably a good choice to go back.


Apparently the Phins already offered Gruden $7million but he turned it down.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:19 pm  

To put it into perspective Bill Belichick gets $7.5 million a year which is still a lot obviously but hes been in the NFL years and won everything going numerous times!

Maybe Gruden just wants more cash because he knows they will pay it, it's probably something like " ok John we will give you $7 million, no Im not interested, ok how about $10 million, no, ok how about 20, go on then you have twisted my arm"

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:23 pm  

Be gutted if Gruden gets a job. Really enjoyed his input on MNF.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:25 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Be gutted if Gruden gets a job. Really enjoyed his input on MNF.

Thats why he's turned down the job, because he enjoys being an commentator.

I don't see the fascination with him, sure he's won a SB, but he isn't a great coach.

Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:29 pm  

I also like Gruden's commentary I think he's the best about at the moment