Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:35 am  

PAUL M wrote:

How does Barry get picked for England, seriously he can't pass the ball to save his lfe. He constantly gives away possession and when he is defending he often gets ran around. He should be nowhere near the side, same goes for SWP who literally just runs up blind alleys and falls over.

They were not the only culprits but Barry did this in the WC too, just constantly passed the ball to the opposition.

He has to go. He's far too slow aswell. As we saw in the WC when Ozil absolutely blitzed him for the 3rd or 4th goal. He couldn't get anywhere near him.

So much for youth getting a shot aswell. Kevin f-cking Davies. Je.zuz.christ.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:52 am  

PAUL M wrote:

How does Barry get picked for England, seriously he can't pass the ball to save his lfe. He constantly gives away possession and when he is defending he often gets ran around. He should be nowhere near the side, same goes for SWP who literally just runs up blind alleys and falls over.

They were not the only culprits but Barry did this in the WC too, just constantly passed the ball to the opposition.

Obsessed. Worst players on the pitch were Rooney and Glen Johnson. Why have you not criticised Rooney?

Barry was a bit sluggish but let’s face it, he’s not the kind of player who is going to look effective against a team who get players behind the ball. He won’t provide that killer pass, outpace his ‘runner’ or dribble the ball past 3 players and unleash a spectacular shot.

As for SWP, he has been poor, below average at best, for a while now. However, you should judge him when he is playing in his position. I don't know if you have ever played football but playing on a flank you are not used to, is difficult. SWP doesn't have the technical ability to play on the 'opposite flank'.

City still provided arguably the best player on the pitch – Adam Johnson. Again, I wouldn’t expect you to say that, the other best player being Gerrard. Again, I wouldn’t expect you to compliment him either.

Maybe you are not obsessed. Rather you simply don’t know much about football.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:41 pm  

Only Wayne Rooney is more overated that Gareth Barry.

And to think Manchester United fans rate Rooney on the same level as Leo Messi. Pur-lease....

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:02 pm  

MacBlondie wrote:

Only Wayne Rooney is more overated that Gareth Barry.

And to think Manchester United fans rate Rooney on the same level as Leo Messi. Pur-lease....

I was tempted to ask "Who overrates Gareth Barry?", but then I noticed that Jamie Redknapp singled him out for special praise this morning!

I think the worrying thing for England is that the team playing yesterday was probably the best available and that the missing players probably wouldnt have made much of a difference. People can argue the relative merits of a few players but they're all much of a muchness.

We're the international equivalent of a yo yo team. We'll probably be good enough for qualification but will fail when we're up against the big boys.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:10 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

We're the international equivalent of a yo yo team. We'll probably be good enough for qualification but will fail when we're up against the big boys.

Sums England up for me, 99% of the time they're good enough to qualify but when it comes to facing the best in the world and Europe in the major tournaments they fail badly.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:19 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

I was tempted to ask "Who overrates Gareth Barry?", but then I noticed that Jamie Redknapp singled him out for special praise this morning!

I think the worrying thing for England is that the team playing yesterday was probably the best available and that the missing players probably wouldnt have made much of a difference. People can argue the relative merits of a few players but they're all much of a muchness.

We're the international equivalent of a yo yo team. We'll probably be good enough for qualification but will fail when we're up against the big boys.

Gareth Barry is w**k. Anyone who thinks any different is deluded. It's nothing to do with the fact tat he plays for City, it's due to his ability. He is not good enough, his passing is truly appauling.

Rooney is in terrible form, but sadly for England, is too good to be dropped. He should be rested and left with his club to re discover his best form. But Englands other options are Darren Bent, Peter Crouch and Kevin Davies.

I wish Capello would've played Englands most dangerous player (Adam Johnson) in his most natural position down the left last night. He was cutting in all the time and was so predictable. It was crying out for Young and Johnson to be switched.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:46 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

:LOL: Obsessed. Worst players on the pitch were Rooney and Glen Johnson. Why have you not criticised Rooney?

Barry was a bit sluggish but let’s face it, he’s not the kind of player who is going to look effective against a team who get players behind the ball. He won’t provide that killer pass, outpace his ‘runner’ or dribble the ball past 3 players and unleash a spectacular shot.

As for SWP, he has been poor, below average at best, for a while now. However, you should judge him when he is playing in his position. I don't know if you have ever played football but playing on a flank you are not used to, is difficult. SWP doesn't have the technical ability to play on the 'opposite flank'.

City still provided arguably the best player on the pitch – Adam Johnson. Again, I wouldn’t expect you to say that, the other best player being Gerrard. Again, I wouldn’t expect you to compliment him either.

Maybe you are not obsessed. Rather you simply don’t know much about football.

Are you a moron? Actually don't answer that we all know you are.

Why does it always have to be about City or Utd? OBSESSED!!!

I never mentioned quite a few players but I did say there were other culprits, I singled out Barry because he was truly awful and was so in the WC. As for SWP well I used to play on the right of midfield so I am aware of how difficult it is to swap but tbh you could play Shaun on the right and he would still be poor, he has no class, he just runs with his head down until he bumps into someone. He was a good player the first time he left City but it's all gone wrong since then.

Rooney is out of form, he was poor in the WC and has been for Utd so far this season, I have no issue with saying that as unlike you I don't rant and rave everytime someone mentions a player form the team I support.

Johnson was easily our best player but should be played on the left not the right, do you want a gold star as he plays for City? Gerrard played too deep, a few players did but he produced some cracking balls at times for the front two.

As for football knowledge, you show yourself up constantly on here, mainly due to the fact that you are bitter blue obsessed with Utd and Spurs it seems. However in your little world I am sure you think of yourself as being the font of all knowledge

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:59 pm  

Enfield Exile is also obsessed with Chelsea, Everton, Villa and Leeds as well as the two you have already mentioned.

He is turning into a Kopite with that mentality of 'if you disagree with me or have an opinion about my team, which isn't aren't you great, then you are bitter'.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:09 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

Johnson was easily our best player but should be played on the left not the right,

Adam Johnson is a significantly better winger when played on the right than the left. He hasn't had a decent game in City colours on the left whereas he has largely been outstanding on the right.

He is like many wide players these days in that they prefer cutting in field to getting to the byline. Adam Johnson is an outstanding player but crossing is not his strongest point on left or right. However, his trickery causes more chaos on the right because he is prepared to vary it and go to the byline and use his right just when the full back expects different. Play him on the left and he is less inclined to cut in and use his right, he becomes a tad more predictable and is shut out much more easily.

It creates a problem at our place because SWP is hopeless on the left but can be a threat down the right when he's on song and it also means that James Milner is now largely playing in a wide left role that he is clearly not very good in.

Re: Football Chat : Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:17 pm  

D.D. wrote:

Adam Johnson is a significantly better winger when played on the right than the left. He hasn't had a decent game in City colours on the left whereas he has largely been outstanding on the right.

He is like many wide players these days in that they prefer cutting in field to getting to the byline. Adam Johnson is an outstanding player but crossing is not his strongest point on left or right. However, his trickery causes more chaos on the right because he is prepared to vary it and go to the byline and use his right just when the full back expects different. Play him on the left and he is less inclined to cut in and use his right, he becomes a tad more predictable and is shut out much more easily.

It creates a problem at our place because SWP is hopeless on the left but can be a threat down the right when he's on song and it also means that James Milner is now largely playing in a wide left role that he is clearly not very good in.

Tbh Dave no matter where he plays left or right Johnson has to be in England's team everytime it's named. He is the one wide player who looks a genuine threat. The only problem with him playing right for England is we don't have another left footer which means someone like SWP, Young, Milner, Lennon, Walcott etc having to play on the left and look out of place. I think we would look better balanced with him on the left and Walcott, Milner or Lennon on the right.