Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:58 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I can fully understand your relief at Hodgson's dismissal and the appointment of a club legend like Dalglish, but seriously, what makes you so convinced that Kenny being in charge is a good thing?

I appreciate there will the inevitable short term uplift in spirits and results, which always seems to happen when a new manager comes in, but in reality, is Dalglish for Hodgson really any sort of improvement?

Lift the players?

Use better tactics?

Players might actually play for him?

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:13 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Lift the players?

Use better tactics?

Players might actually play for him?

I can accept that, but that can pretty much go for any manager you might bring in.....I'm just curious to know why a fella with no managerial work for over 10 years and over 20 since he was having any credible success should be wanted so much by the fans....If you brought in George Graham most of your fans would be appalled, yet he has similar, if not better qualifications to do the job than Dalglish.....Ultimately, in your desire to bring back the glory days, you have to be careful not to literally go back there and discover that the Golden times weren't quite the joyride you seem to think it was.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:17 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

I can accept that, but that can pretty much go for any manager you might bring in.....I'm just curious to know why a fella with no managerial work for over 10 years and over 20 since he was having any credible success should be wanted so much by the fans....If you brought in George Graham most of your fans would be appalled, yet he has similar, if not better qualifications to do the job than Dalglish.....Ultimately, in your desire to bring back the glory days, you have to be careful not to literally go back there and discover that the Golden times weren't quite the joyride you seem to think it was.

Your not going to get it

Mancs won't get it

Blues won't get it

Cockney media won't get it

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:24 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Your not going to get it

Mancs won't get it

Blues won't get it

Cockney media won't get it

So you admit that the appointment of Dalglish is simply pacifying the Anfield hordes who refuse to move on from the past?

Being a Wire fan you might recognise a similar thing happened at Wilderspool in the mid 90's, when we fetched back Alex Murphy to high acclaim from the Wire faithful.....Look how well that all ended up...

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:27 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

So you admit that the appointment of Dalglish is simply pacifying the Anfield hordes who refuse to move on from the past?

Being a Wire fan you might recognise a similar thing happened at Wilderspool in the mid 90's, when we fetched back Alex Murphy to high acclaim from the Wire faithful.....Look how well that all ended up...

Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:34 pm  

Nikaed wrote:

If Dalglish struggles it will be the team Hodgson left him, when Hodgson struggled it wasn't Rafa left him. I don't think that will happen to be honest as I think the players and club will be galvanised by Dalglish.

You simply don't take a job if you aren't happy with those you have to manage. If Roy didn't want those players, then he shouldn't have taken the job. Same applies with Kenny, but I feel Kenny knows how to get more from this lot than Roy.

However, I don't believe we'll make many moves in this transfer market, although I do feel Kenny has a better understanding of where we want to go, particularly after working at the academy for the past few years.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:38 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.

Whether the past is 1 year ago or 20 years ago, its always the past.....You need to be looking forward and Dalglish is definitely not that..He's a reminder of when times may have been better, but ultimately it was another era entirely....Its a rose tinted appointment, pandering to the nostalgics.

You need a ONeill to steady your ship and get you back on track, or for a truly fresh start you wouldn't go far wrong bringing in somebody like Owen Coyle, who would be a complete break from the past, both recent or distant.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:41 pm  

Wire_85 wrote:

Past? recent past you mean coming 2nd in the league in 2009 and before that Champions League finals plus FA cups.

No trophies for 4 years though Luke. Not good enough for a club of Liverpools stature.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:43 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Whether the past is 1 year ago or 20 years ago, its always the past.....You need to be looking forward and Dalglish is definitely not that..He's a reminder of when times may have been better, but ultimately it was another era entirely....Its a rose tinted appointment, pandering to the nostalgics.

You need a ONeill to steady your ship and get you back on track, or for a truly fresh start you wouldn't go far wrong bringing in somebody like Owen Coyle, who would be a complete break from the past, both recent or distant.

You do know the King is only here until May don't you? we will then likely still get well beaten tomorrow but atleast we have something to look forward to and he can lift this team until May.

Last time I heard the words steady and ship ended with some clueless biff nearly sinking it.

Re: More Football Chat : Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:43 pm  

Nikaed wrote:

No trophies for 4 years though Luke. Not good enough for a club of Liverpools stature.

People like Mark Bright and Lawie Sanchez disagree.