Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:58 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

It really is though most of the time, nobody remembers injuries/ bad play from other positions very often but QB`s are always remembered for there ability/non ability to make game winning comebacks/ get them into position for winning FG`s.

Its a QB`s league with all the praise they get, deserved more often than not they have to come in for stick sometimes too.

So you'd blame our defeat against Washington on Rodgers even though Crosby missed the FG at the death?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:05 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

So you'd blame our defeat against Washington on Rodgers even though Crosby missed the FG at the death?

Where did I say that?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:44 pm  

Ski wrote:

Will you be playing Lancaster Bombers? I'll be heading up to watch them a couple of times.

I am itching for January to start now I have finished therapy on my shoulder. Moving out to WR and trying my hand at corner too.

Nope, our fixtures this year are:

Home vs Nottingham Outlaws [3-5]
Away @ Loughborough Aces [8-0 National Runners Up]
Home vs Nottingham Trent Renegades [7-1 Playoffs]
Home vs Warwick Wolves [2-6]
Away @ Birmingham Lions [8-0 National Champions]
Away @ Tarannau Aberystwyth [4-4]
Home vs Coventry Jets [New Team]
Away @ Worcester Royals [0-8]

Can go 6-2 I think, or if we play like yesterday on D, we could do even better.

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:50 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Where did I say that?

I said it wasn't Rodgers' fault we lost the last two games.

You said "The QB is responsible, just like they are when they get praised for leading their teams to comeback wins and game winning drives".

I then said " It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault."

You said "It really is though most of the time, nobody remembers injuries/ bad play from other positions very often but QB`s are always remembered for there ability/non ability to make game winning comebacks/ get them into position for winning FG`s.
Its a QB`s league with all the praise they get, deserved more often than not they have to come in for stick sometimes too"

So that means that Rodgers is blamed for not leading the comeback versus Washington surely?

You even said nobody remebers injures/bad play but QB's are remembered for non ability to make game winning comebacks.

Ergo nobody remembers Crosby missing the field goal and the QB (Rodgers) is remembered for not making the comeback.

I'm not arguing the case for Rodgers particularly just trying to understand your logic. What you've said reads that Brady leads a 95 yard drive with 1 minute left. Gotskowski misses the FG and it is Brady's fault?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:21 pm  

What an odd season. A team is 1st in all of yards gained, passing yards, yards conceded and passing yards conceded, and is 2-4?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:40 pm  

Can't believe I'm standing up for Conroy again but this Rodgers bashing is getting a bit silly. To put their poor start to the season squarely on Rodgers is daft IMO. He's a good QB and getting better. Crosby missing a FG isn't Rodgers fault. Rodgers has kept his team in the game the last 2 weeks.

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:45 pm  

Just looked at Kurt Warners 4th quarter comebacks. Only had 14 all career. Does that mean he couldn't get it done when it matters? If you think that then you are a moron!

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:08 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Just looked at Kurt Warners 4th quarter comebacks. Only had 14 all career. Does that mean he couldn't get it done when it matters? If you think that then you are a moron!

No, he was just so good that he never needed to come back in the 4th quarter as his teams were always winning

I think people on here know full well how good Rodgers is. My thoughts are that they sometimes get slightly exasperated with Conroy's Packer bias and penchant for exaggeration over all things Green Bay that they like to wind him up. All in good fun though

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:12 pm  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Just looked at Kurt Warners 4th quarter comebacks. Only had 14 all career. Does that mean he couldn't get it done when it matters? If you think that then you are a moron!

Probably because they blew most teams away "the greatest show on turf".

It's fun making Conroy type essays. In all fairness it's very harsh to blame Rodgers, he is the reason they're still in most games due to their injury problems. You also can't blame a kicker for missing a 53 yarder, hardly a chip shot. The record of him being 0-5 in OT show's that he hasn't done the job in overtime. That's not having a pop at him that's simply stating fact. The last 3 times 1, Fumbled for a touchdown 2. Threw a pick 3. Failed to move his team down the field.

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:13 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

No, he was just so good that he never needed to come back in the 4th quarter as his teams were always winning

I think people on here know full well how good Rodgers is. My thoughts are that they sometimes get slightly exasperated with Conroy's Packer bias and penchant for exaggeration over all things Green Bay that they like to wind him up. All in good fun though

Spot on. How you enjoying Spags defence anyway?