Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:12 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

At least we're not murderers.

Or racists.

You're guilty on both those counts.

How'd you work that out?

What's next on your list, are you going to call somebody gay? Are you going to call somebody's mummy? Self pity? Jobless?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:44 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

How'd you work that out?

What's next on your list, are you going to call somebody gay? Are you going to call somebody's mummy? Self pity? Jobless?

Easy. You murdered 33 Italians. You have a player found guilty of racial abuse during the game. You choose to ignore the death of the Italians, instead preferring to just call for J96 and choose to believe that South Americans just greet everyone they meet with racial comments rather than hello.

You seem to be trying to climb on a high horse, but it was you scouse filth who were taking delight and pride in the abuse Terry received about his mother.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:29 pm  

Just a question to the people who are now wanting Terry charged by the FA.

Obviously you're wanting Terry charged, found guilty, banned and probably hanged.

But is it just Terry you want charged, or is it Ferdinand and Terry who you think should be charged, or do you not care about Ferdinand so long as the chance is there to punish Terry?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:56 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Easy. You murdered 33 Italians. You have a player found guilty of racial abuse during the game. You choose to ignore the death of the Italians, instead preferring to just call for J96 and choose to believe that South Americans just greet everyone they meet with racial comments rather than hello.

You seem to be trying to climb on a high horse, but it was you scouse filth who were taking delight and pride in the abuse Terry received about his mother.

Who did? Me? The football team I support? The population of Liverpool? The players of Liverpool FC? Are you really this dim or are you acting? Keep digging, you're giving me the best laugh I've had since those plastic flags.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:29 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Who did? Me? The football team I support? The population of Liverpool? The players of Liverpool FC? Are you really this dim or are you acting? Keep digging, you're giving me the best laugh I've had since those plastic flags.

I think it's probably depression that's causing you to laugh out of despair.

You bent over backwards to defend Suarez from the start. He was proved to be guilty of racial abuse. It seems that causes you great distress and the only way you can deal with it is to claim the whole world is against you in a giant conspiracy.

You couldn't condemn John Terry fast enough and pronounce his guilt. You even went as far as saying he was guilty of abusing Ledley King, even though the only evidence for that is crazy internet ramblings.

So the Suarez guilty verdict and John Terry not guilty verdict have clearly screwed up your head. Being that you're a scouser, it would probably be for the best if you took your own life before you take someone else's.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:40 pm  

I'm not sure where the 'sarcasm' thing fits in either, seems a bit odd. And the irony of Liverpool fans wanting racism charges brought against Terry is hilarious

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:59 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

I think it's probably depression that's causing you to laugh out of despair.

You bent over backwards to defend Suarez from the start. He was proved to be guilty of racial abuse. It seems that causes you great distress and the only way you can deal with it is to claim the whole world is against you in a giant conspiracy.

You couldn't condemn John Terry fast enough and pronounce his guilt. You even went as far as saying he was guilty of abusing Ledley King, even though the only evidence for that is crazy internet ramblings.

So the Suarez guilty verdict and John Terry not guilty verdict have clearly screwed up your head. Being that you're a scouser, it would probably be for the best if you took your own life before you take someone else's.

I felt the media coverage of the whole affair was disgraceful, I felt that the FA were instantly out to find a guilty man and once Suarez admitted using 'a word', he was always doomed, but that's just me taking my position in the side of an argument/debate. Is that the world, or are you exaggerating again?

The reason I gave Terry sh*t was because of a video of him clearly saying "FBC, FKH". Considering the whole world wasn't interested in what Suarez said, just the use of one word, I was quite happy to jump on the bandwagon as I couldn't imagine Terry being cleared of any wrongdoing when there was clear video evidence to show him saying it, whilst there was no evidence of Suarez saying what he was charged with, just a 'victim' and a decision based on probability, something I still feel isn't fair but I won't bother with that.

As has already been said, the two cases were completely different in every sense other than racism being the theme. It will be interesting to see if the FA decide to use their own investigation to charge Terry, or whether they hide behind the court's decision.

Now, where does this involve murderers, Heysel, Hillsborough or whatever else it is you want to throw in? You then say my head is screwed and I should take my own life? Are you sure you're OK pal?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:00 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

I'm not sure where the 'sarcasm' thing fits in either, seems a bit odd. And the irony of Liverpool fans wanting racism charges brought against Terry is hilarious

What's the irony of it?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:49 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

I felt the media coverage of the whole affair was disgraceful, I felt that the FA were instantly out to find a guilty man and once Suarez admitted using 'a word', he was always doomed, but that's just me taking my position in the side of an argument/debate. Is that the world, or are you exaggerating again?

The reason I gave Terry sh*t was because of a video of him clearly saying "FBC, FKH". Considering the whole world wasn't interested in what Suarez said, just the use of one word, I was quite happy to jump on the bandwagon as I couldn't imagine Terry being cleared of any wrongdoing when there was clear video evidence to show him saying it, whilst there was no evidence of Suarez saying what he was charged with, just a 'victim' and a decision based on probability, something I still feel isn't fair but I won't bother with that.

As has already been said, the two cases were completely different in every sense other than racism being the theme. It will be interesting to see if the FA decide to use their own investigation to charge Terry, or whether they hide behind the court's decision.

Now, where does this involve murderers, Heysel, Hillsborough or whatever else it is you want to throw in? You then say my head is screwed and I should take my own life? Are you sure you're OK pal?

As soon as the allegation was made you were already proclaiming him innocent. You insisted that his immediate denial was so vehement that you believed him as you couldn't see him denying it in such a fashion if he was guilty.

But Terry's denial was even more vehement. He spoke with Cole DURING THE MATCH and said Ferdinand had accused him of racism. He spoke with Ferdinand after the game and tried to clear up what happened. He made an instant statement after the game to offer his side of the story. A side of the story he still sticks with. A side of the story that video evidence pretty much backs up, even though there were several viewing angles and there's no way Terry would have known what the cameras showed.

You claim the FA wanted wanted to stitch you up, you've claimed that Evra was allowed to be coached and allowed to make his statement along to video evidence and Suarez wasn't. You've no way of knowing any of this 5hit and it smacks of paranoid scouse lunacy. Just because you cannot possibly handle it that Suarez said something he shouldn't.

You say that there's no evidence of Suarez saying the words, but that's not what the hearing said. They said there was footage of several arguments between them, while Suarez claimed that there was only one verbal confrontation between them. And you haven't seen the footage that was made available during the hearing, so you don't even know what was shown. (And even if you did see and hear Suarez clearly racially abusing him, you'd them come up with another moronic excuse to hide behind).

How does this involve murderers, Heysel, Hillsborough? You scouse c**** are dishing out the jibes and bringing up irrelevant 5hit, I'm giving it back to you. But no doubt that's a FA conspiracy too.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:30 am  

Roddy B wrote:

I felt the media coverage of the whole affair was disgraceful, I felt that the FA were instantly out to find a guilty man and once Suarez admitted using 'a word', he was always doomed, but that's just me taking my position in the side of an argument/debate. Is that the world, or are you exaggerating again?



As has already been said, the two cases were completely different in every sense other than racism being the theme. It will be interesting to see if the FA decide to use their own investigation to charge Terry, or whether they hide behind the court's decision.

Racial abuse in englsih football isn't new - I recall watching Clyde Best and Albert Johannson ,two fine footballers take their fair share of abuse both on and off the pitch in the late sixties - the chants were sometimes disgusting but often said by fans as part of the craic and by fellow players in fun or in the heat of the moment. This didn't prevent the small minority of fans and players being real racists and being able to get away with this abuse but it went on just like players were called f*****g jocks or whatever - that's life, get on with it ! Nobody cared about being 'PC' in those days, it as done as part of the game - why are peole so touchy nowadays ?

You're right Roddy the two cases are different but 'the people' are beying for their blood for different reasons, Suarez because of his attitude (guilty or not) not helped by the King and the other players and their p**s taking attitude with the T shirts etc and for JT because most people see him and his family as a low-life scumbag who deserves to be shafted - it doesn't make it right but that's the general attitude as seen by neutrals like me.

Yourself and LGJM have your personal agendas but please, both of you don't go so low as to drag Heysel & Hillsborough etc into the argument - that's just plain bad taste.