Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:50 am  

Nikaed wrote:

Okay..

Just nod,smile and politely tell him hes talking bollax

The QB is responsible, just like they are when they get praised for leading their teams to comeback wins and game winning drives

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:57 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

Just nod,smile and politely tell him hes talking bollax

The QB is responsible, just like they are when they get praised for leading their teams to comeback wins and game winning drives

I've got to agree with this. This is why the "4th quarter comeback" stat is so interesting.

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:40 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

I'm not so sure - I've seen much dirtier hits than that. It looks like a bad one but I don't even think it was a direct helmet to helmet hit - most of the contact seems to be on the shoulder.

Pretty much what I said elsewhere - Robinson actually lowers his head to avoid it being helmet to helmet, the concussion for Jackson is as a result of the whiplash and his head hitting the ground.

Kolb lead him into a world of trouble with a high throw across the middle, Dunta is throwing himself at him to try and knock the ball loose IMO.

Still, this is the NFL under Goodell where any physical contact with any "star" player is banned but you can pump yourself full of whatever masking agents you like to avoid failing drug tests.

Funny how the Vikings suddenly can't stop the run now the NFL have got wise of the Williamses...

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:16 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Pretty much what I said elsewhere - Robinson actually lowers his head to avoid it being helmet to helmet, the concussion for Jackson is as a result of the whiplash and his head hitting the ground.

Kolb lead him into a world of trouble with a high throw across the middle, Dunta is throwing himself at him to try and knock the ball loose IMO.

Still, this is the NFL under Goodell where any physical contact with any "star" player is banned but you can pump yourself full of whatever masking agents you like to avoid failing drug tests.

Funny how the Vikings suddenly can't stop the run now the NFL have got wise of the Williamses...

See my response on SS

I agree with you regarding drugs cheats and the Williams sisters its a joke that they have been able to get away with it so long and still continue to do so! They will have retired before they actually get a ban

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:46 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Just nod,smile and politely tell him hes talking bollax

The QB is responsible, just like they are when they get praised for leading their teams to comeback wins and game winning drives

Like in Superbowl 42?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:10 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Just nod,smile and politely tell him hes talking bollax

The QB is responsible, just like they are when they get praised for leading their teams to comeback wins and game winning drives

I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.

Last week Rodgers put us in the position to win in the fourth quarter. Crosby missed the kick.
Yesterday Rodgers scored with 13 seconds left. A poor punt gave them the position to win.

I thought we'd lose yesterday (I picked against us in the PickEm league and said so on here) given our injuries, but that is no excuse.

We need to turn around our form in fourth quarters which is worrying but i don't see that defeat being because Rodgers isn't "clutch".

Three defeats by three game ending field goals shows we aren't far away from being the team we should be despite our issues in each game. We have a tough run in to the bye week so we really need to get rolling soon.

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:10 pm  

Nikaed wrote:

Like in Superbowl 42?

Yes.

Brady could have lead us to a game winning TD but he didn`t, if he had of done he would have been praised for winning us the game, but we didnt so he was blamed for having a poor game!

HTH

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:16 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.

Last week Rodgers put us in the position to win in the fourth quarter. Crosby missed the kick.
Yesterday Rodgers scored with 13 seconds left. A poor punt gave them the position to win.

I thought we'd lose yesterday (I picked against us in the PickEm league and said so on here) given our injuries, but that is no excuse.

We need to turn around our form in fourth quarters which is worrying but i don't see that defeat being because Rodgers isn't "clutch".

Three defeats by three game ending field goals shows we aren't far away from being the team we should be despite our issues in each game. We have a tough run in to the bye week so we really need to get rolling soon.

0-5 in overtime games. The "elite" take their team down the field when the games is on the line and win the game, more often than not". Rodgers is a supremely gifted quarterback and one of the league's top 10, but the best have this in their locker. It will come in time as you have to remember he is basically in his 3rd season. Would you like to modify your 12-4 prediciton? I'm thinking 10-6 (probably still win the north)

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:17 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Yes.

Brady could have lead us to a game winning TD but he didn`t, if he had of done he would have been praised for winning us the game, but we didnt so he was blamed for having a poor game!

HTH

Our defence was unplayable that day. Brady had no time whatsover. I've got Deion Branch in fantasyland. Wanna work out a trade?

Re: NFL Chat : Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:20 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I'm correct though. It isn't just as simple as win and the QB is praised. Lose and it is his fault.
.

It really is though most of the time, nobody remembers injuries/ bad play from other positions very often but QB`s are always remembered for there ability/non ability to make game winning comebacks/ get them into position for winning FG`s.

Its a QB`s league with all the praise they get, deserved more often than not they have to come in for stick sometimes too.