Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:04 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Problem is, and this is the biggest thing that most England fans can't seem to get their heads around; football isn't played on paper. In theory, Ashley Young should be better than Andriy Yarmolenko, but I bet Yarmolenko has a better tournament. The Swedes may not have big names, but they always work their nuts off and work rate alone will force England's rank average midfield to struggle.

At the end of the day, for all their premier league-tasticness, England's player won't live up to the lofty standards expected because they are managed by a pr*ck. There is little balance, chemistry and quality in the side. 4-4-2 with average players may scrape through rounds on defending and work rate alone, but if Sweden and Ukraine take the 'underdog' approach to Roy's England, we may see some of the most dire football ever witnessed in the modern era.

Pity Sweden didn't take the underdog attitude in qualification, they might have managed to top there group.

It doesn't matter though, we have sweden In our group so we wont see knockout football like in 2002 and 2006 (and both times didnt they just play us off the park)

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:12 pm  

U tell him mate .

At the end of the day they dont have our PASSION .

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:14 pm  

Cas Till I Die wrote:

Pity Sweden didn't take the underdog attitude in qualification, they might have managed to top there group.

It doesn't matter though, we have sweden In our group so we wont see knockout football like in 2002 and 2006 (and both times didnt they just play us off the park)

What about the last Euros? Where were the mighty English with their on-paper warriors?

I'm not claiming the Swedes are world beaters, they aren't, they are a pretty average nation that consistently reach tournaments through hard work and a sprinkling of magic from players like Zlatan. What I'm claiming is England are a complete and utter pile of w*nk. I have never seen the English national side play 'well' consistently, with a recognised style/brand and a dedication to perform that style/brand. I've been watching England for about fourteen to sixteen years (I'm twenty one), and I've never seen them play properly well. Every single tournament I am forced to believe that the groups will be a breeze, that X nation should be an easy win and that with momentum, we could win it. Every tournament it ends, every tournament expectations aren't met and every tournament the same questions are asked.

For me, England will struggle and they can't guarantee any result. The Sweden game should be the easiest of the three, but given Roy's defeatist attitude to football, England will do very well to get four points.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:29 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

What about the last Euros? Where were the mighty English with their on-paper warriors?

I'm not claiming the Swedes are world beaters, they aren't, they are a pretty average nation that consistently reach tournaments through hard work and a sprinkling of magic from players like Zlatan. What I'm claiming is England are a complete and utter pile of w*nk. I have never seen the English national side play 'well' consistently, with a recognised style/brand and a dedication to perform that style/brand. I've been watching England for about fourteen to sixteen years (I'm twenty one), and I've never seen them play properly well. Every single tournament I am forced to believe that the groups will be a breeze, that X nation should be an easy win and that with momentum, we could win it. Every tournament it ends, every tournament expectations aren't met and every tournament thek questions are asked.

For me, England will struggle and they can't guarantee any result. The Sweden game should be the easiest of the three, but given Roy's defeatist attitude to football, England will do very well to get four points.

So in the first line of your post you make a point about us not getting to the last euros(our first failure in 14 years). Can I ask where Sweden were at the last major tournament ??? Maybe working there nuts off on the beach (consistently getting to tournaments) ???

Read back through my posts we don't breeze through groups but we do usually find a way through..... Once out of the last seven attempts we have failed. Not really a bad record. We have been very unlucky not to do much better once through (2010 apart). My original point was that it would be a disgrace not to get through the group and it would.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:37 pm  

I wouldn't say Sweden are the organised defensive team they were. Their defence looks a bit shakey but they're now much more attacking minded. They've recently worked out how to get the best of out Ibra which is bad news for us. I could see us drawing easily.

[John_D]

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:15 am  

Asim wrote:

I think the idea for Portugal is that Coentrao bombs down the left and occupies that space but it does leave them exposed elsewhere.

I recall Real Madrid playing like that in the Champions League - think it was against Bayern - and Coentrao was soundly thrashed in the papers, here and in Spain, for having a shocker. The poor lad was only doing as he was told.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:08 am  

Hearing United have taken up first option on Angelo Henriquez and will sign him for £3m. At age 17 he was already playing the lone striker role at Universidad de Chile. They are now in the Copa Libertadores semis. I believe he has 12 goals in 17 games which includes the Chilean Primera and the Copa Libertadores.

[John_D]

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:18 am  

Catalancs wrote:

Hearing United have taken up first option on Angelo Henriquez and will sign him for £3m. At age 17 he was already playing the lone striker role at Universidad de Chile. They are now in the Copa Libertadores semis. I believe he has 12 goals in 17 games which includes the Chilean Primera and the Copa Libertadores.

La U are a quite amazing football team. Brilliant to watch

[John_D]

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:18 am  

Anyone for joining me in my Euro 2012 of Beer project?

Anyone for joining me in my Euro 2012 of Beer project?

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 pm  

Inga Land wrote:

U tell him mate .

At the end of the day they dont have our PASSION .

What passion ? England are a team of individuals and I'd be surprised if they got out of their group.