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| Going into the game at Old Trafford yesterday I knew there would be a reaction from the there Semi-Final defeat. But once we went 4-2 up i did think game finished. But Everton where outstanding and showed real guts and determination and deserved there draw aided by some awful defending. I do think next week we will be beat City and claim the Premiership.
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| Quote on_the_charge="on_the_charge"Going into the game at Old Trafford yesterday I knew there would be a reaction from the there Semi-Final defeat. But once we went 4-2 up i did think game finished. But Everton where outstanding and showed real guts and determination and deserved there draw aided by some awful defending. I do think next week we will be beat City and claim the Premiership.'"
When you look at them, how many were poor defending? Ferguson claimed all Everton's were soft and all United's were superb moves. Hmm.
The opener was a superb cross from Tony Hibbert which went to the far post. Rafael was in the right position, tight to Jelavic and jumped well. It was just a case of a superb cross, superb finish and a taller attacker.
Everton's second from Fellaini was another superb cross and well executed finish. The defending was pretty slack in not picking up Fellaini for this one. The third one was a ball that came from a headed clearance. Fellaini put pressure on and the defender wasn't able to get a good clearance onto it, but it's hardly poor defending.
The fourth was every bit as good a goal as Rooney's second. Patient, Barcelona-esque  build up between Phil Neville, Cahill and Pienaar. The ball into Fellaini from Neville was superb and the movement, turn, pass and finish were all excellent. Great goal.
If anything the soft goals were United's, as at least three of those came from very weak clearances.
Sets it up nicely for next week though as a neutral. Pop corn at the ready. Makes you see just how massive a Grand Final in the Premier League would be. Can you imagine the week building up to that?
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"Fellaini was very good, however, how good a striker is Jelavic and where would Everton be if he had joined last August and not on the last day of January??
Moyes has took some criticism from some over his striker signings (Beattie, Johnson, Yakubu, etc), but Jelavic looks an absolute bargain.....The big worry is that he is going to attract some attention from those 'bigger' clubs who sniff around clubs like Everton - An Arsenal, Chelsea, or even a Liverpool are surely going to be interested if he keeps this form up?'"
It's alright, according to reports in Janurary, we were after him then but turned him down and then Everton signed him. I honestly don't understand what we were thinking. He looks a steal for Everton at £5M, every game I've watched him he's looked sharp, clincial and always has an eye for goal. His goals yesterday were superb.
It really angers me the way we went about spending the £100M we had at our disposal in the summer, especially when you see foreigners such as Jelavic and Pappis Cisse come over here for pittance and prove to be great buys.
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"It's alright, according to reports in Janurary, we were after him then but turned him down and then Everton signed him. I honestly don't understand what we were thinking. He looks a steal for Everton at £5M, every game I've watched him he's looked sharp, clincial and always has an eye for goal. His goals yesterday were superb.
It really angers me the way we went about spending the £100M we had at our disposal in the summer, especially when you see foreigners such as Jelavic and Pappis Cisse come over here for pittance and prove to be great buys.'"
Liverpool's main problem is that Suarez and Carroll (Semi final second half aside) don't seem to work as a partnership. From the Liverpool games I've seen this season Suarez in particular flatters to deceive. He does some very pretty work and makes people ooh and ahh, but it's generally not very productive with it. 8 league goals this season from him at a goal every 285 minutes. He's not even helping set them up with only 5 assists at one every 456 minutes. It's not like Liverpool haven't been creating chances either, they must have had a dozen decent chances against WBA.
So do you sell your two big money strikers, as Suarez is as much of a problem as Carroll, for all his eye catching moves.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Liverpool's main problem is that Suarez and Carroll (Semi final second half aside) don't seem to work as a partnership. From the Liverpool games I've seen this season Suarez in particular flatters to deceive. He does some very pretty work and makes people ooh and ahh, but it's generally not very productive with it. 8 league goals this season from him at a goal every 285 minutes. He's not even helping set them up with only 5 assists at one every 456 minutes. It's not like Liverpool haven't been creating chances either, they must have had a dozen decent chances against WBA.
So do you sell your two big money strikers, as Suarez is as much of a problem as Carroll, for all his eye catching moves.'"
Have to disagree - Suarez, for all the baggage that comes with him, is a class act, he's just badly handicapped by the dross around him.
The main problem you, and many others have, is that they view Suarez on his goals return, when its apparent he is a 'support' striker.....Yes, he will provide goals, but not in the amount that a Rooney or Van Persie will give you - In fact, partnering either of those, he would be devastating.
The problem at the moment is that he is carrying Carroll, who through a mixture of his own incompetence and the lack of quality supply to him, is giving virtually nothing to the side.
Liverpool need to urgently bin Carroll (and quite a few others), and find a real scorer in the Jelavic/Cisse/Ba mould, and then this would free Suarez from the pressure he currently has to shoulder.
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"The main problem you, and many others have, is that they view Suarez on his goals return, when its apparent he is a 'support' striker.....Yes, he will provide goals, but not in the amount that a Rooney or Van Persie will give you - In fact, partnering either of those, he would be devastating.'"
He reminds me a little of a young RvP. They're not similar in style, but they both hit the post a lot and Suarez is touted as a wide forward/second striker, just like RvP was when he was younger. They both done/do everything right in the build up to goals, but the lack of conviction/composure stopped/stops them from scoring more. RvP has finally stepped up to his true potential and I think Suarez will too eventually. When you see him for Uruguay playing alongside Cavani and Forlan, you see just how dangerous he is.
I think Suarez has been class on the most part, his problem seems to be he actually tries too hard; he needs to pick and choose his moments for brilliance. Every time he gets the ball he tries to turn the defender or do something 'different', but it becomes predictable in ways. Another problem of his is that he seems to create an awful lot for himself, you'll see him turn a defender, evade another but when it comes to the finish, he's knackered or off balance from the previous events; he needs to focus on getting on the end of things a bit more, for me.
Still, I think he's our best attacking player and he's definitely a difference maker, but he's struggling to make a partnership work, largely because he's played with poor forwards in Kuyt and Carroll. I imagine if he can play with a striker that he trusts and gets a bit of consistency from, he will definitely score and create more.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"
Sets it up nicely for next week though as a neutral. Pop corn at the ready. Makes you see just how massive a Grand Final in the Premier League would be. Can you imagine the week building up to that?'"
The build up to City v United games are bad enough as it is, they don't need to be raised (or sunk) to another level!
I doubt that it will be that great a game. A draw should be good enough for United, particularly with City's trip to Newcastle to follow.
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| Quote Cibaman="Cibaman"The build up to City v United games are bad enough as it is, they don't need to be raised (or sunk) to another level!
I doubt that it will be that great a game. A draw should be good enough for United, particularly with City's trip to Newcastle to follow.'"
think i am having a news black out until after the game, how far after the game probably depends on the result 
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| So....with only a few weeks of the season left, how do we think it'll all pan out?
Winners: Man City
Race for 4th: Spurs
Relegated: Blackburn & QPR
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"He reminds me a little of a young RvP. They're not similar in style, but they both hit the post a lot and Suarez is touted as a wide forward/second striker, just like RvP was when he was younger. They both done/do everything right in the build up to goals, but the lack of conviction/composure stopped/stops them from scoring more. RvP has finally stepped up to his true potential and I think Suarez will too eventually. When you see him for Uruguay playing alongside Cavani and Forlan, you see just how dangerous he is.
I think Suarez has been class on the most part, his problem seems to be he actually tries too hard; he needs to pick and choose his moments for brilliance. Every time he gets the ball he tries to turn the defender or do something 'different', but it becomes predictable in ways. Another problem of his is that he seems to create an awful lot for himself, you'll see him turn a defender, evade another but when it comes to the finish, he's knackered or off balance from the previous events; he needs to focus on getting on the end of things a bit more, for me.
Still, I think he's our best attacking player and he's definitely a difference maker, but he's struggling to make a partnership work, largely because he's played with poor forwards in Kuyt and Carroll. I imagine if he can play with a striker that he trusts and gets a bit of consistency from, he will definitely score and create more.'"
Rob, talking about a suitable striker to partner Suarez, do you know much about this lad? [url=http://www.kopsource.com/jackson-martinez-set-for-liverpool-switch/Clicky.[/url
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| Quote Lord Tony Smith="Lord Tony Smith"Rob, talking about a suitable striker to partner Suarez, do you know much about this lad? [url=http://www.kopsource.com/jackson-martinez-set-for-liverpool-switch/Clicky.[/url'"
No, but a fella I speak to on Twitter says he looks very well suited to English football and us. Probably better asking an American-based journo, maybe Jen Chang?
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| Negredo would have been a great signing for Liverpool. He'd have cost less than Carroll too.
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| Quote Roddy B="Roddy B"No, but a fella I speak to on Twitter says he looks very well suited to English football and us. Probably better asking an American-based journo, maybe Jen Chang?'"
It say's in that peice that Tim Vickery say's he's an out an out goal scorer, Vickery know's his South American football very well. Could turn out to be a steal for $9M which is around £5.5M. I would like it to be true for that price at least, surely worth a gamble.
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| Quote Catalancs="Catalancs"Negredo would have been a great signing for Liverpool. He'd have cost less than Carroll too.'"
Could say that about the majority of strikers in Europe and South America.
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| That they'd be a great signing for Liverpool, that they'd cost a lot less than Carroll or both?
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| Got a feeling Chelsea will get a score draw tonight and go through. Hoping Barca smash them though!
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| Quote Gandy="Gandy"Got a feeling Chelsea will get a score draw tonight and go through. Hoping Barca smash them though!'"
I think they'll get smashed.....Well, I hope they do, just put a tenner on Barca to win 5-0 at 22/1.
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| Is Ally McCoist on another planet or have I missed something about the Rangers/SFA punishment issue?
McCoist is saying the fact that they cannot sign anyone over 18 for a year will kill the club. Wow. Why does he think Rangers should be able to sign players, when they are in so much debt with such an uncertain future? It's that kind of attitude that got them into so much trouble in the first place.
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| Nice one Terry way to help your team 
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| Thats twice Terry's cost Chelski the Champions League. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
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| Quote Smiggs="Smiggs"Apparently Sanchez backed into Terry's knee!!!'"
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