Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:14 pm  

Wiz wrote:

Robert Griffin III is the best player in the national football league. Breathtaking.

Lol, good one

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:16 pm  

Dirty Pretty Thing wrote:

On Twitter Jason LaCanfora has suggested that it could be the last time you see that decision. Also saw someone else ask what would happen if an offence scored a dubious TD and their HC threw the challenge flag. Would that stop a review taking place?

Think I read somewhere last night that if a potential review benefits the team that didn't throw the flag, it will be allowed.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:18 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

Lol, good one

16 Touchdowns and 4 Interceptions as rookie to go along with his running ability, there is no other player I'd rather have.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:22 pm  

Wiz wrote:

16 Touchdowns and 4 Interceptions as rookie to go along with his running ability, there is no other player I'd rather have.

Not saying he hasn't been impressive, but there's no way I would call a rookie, who's only 11 games into his career, the best player in the NFL.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:29 pm  

Wiz wrote:

16 Touchdowns and 4 Interceptions as rookie to go along with his running ability, there is no other player I'd rather have.

Come on Mark, sorry Wiz, you'd even have him over Aaron Rodgers who is 27 TD's, 6 INT's and a 107.3 passer rating?

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:42 pm  

Adamjk wrote:

Not saying he hasn't been impressive, but there's no way I would call a rookie, who's only 11 games into his career, the best player in the NFL.

Other pundits have said similar. I have never seen a player with so much poise, intelligence and field awareness at such a young age. It's good to see the Redskins finally get the franchise quarterback they've been looking for. Heath Shuler, Danny Weurffel, Jason Campbell and now finally RGIII. A steal in my eyes.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:45 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Come on Mark, sorry Wiz, you'd even have him over Aaron Rodgers who is 27 TD's, 6 INT's and a 107.3 passer rating?

Mark?

I would have him other Rodgers. I love Rodgers and think he is the best pure passer in the league, but you have to take into account the supporting cast Rodgers has at his disposal and the time he was given to learn the position behind a future hall of famer. Nobody in league history has been this good right away.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:20 pm  

Time for my weekly picks. I was 11-2 last week. Here goes.

Chicago - Ponder will struggle with Bears defence.
Cincinatti - On a little roll at the moment
Pittsburgh - Batch at quarterback, still win though.
Buffalo - Defence looked like it should last week
Jacksonville - Henne, Shorts and Blackmon to carry on from last week
Denver - Manning v Cassel
Seattle - Miami doesn't have weapons to trouble Seahawks defence
Atlanta - TB to come unstuck
Chargers - Not sure why, just a hunch
Arizona - Due a win and Bradford looking a bust
New Orleans - On the road at the dome too much for Kaepernick
Green Bay - Best team in the league right now, it will be close though.
Panthers - Eagles dressing room has gone

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:56 pm  

Adamjk wrote: Not saying he hasn't been impressive, but there's no way I would call a rookie, who's only 11 games into his career, the best player in the NFL. Exactly. I mean, how many playoff wins does he have? How many clutch performances? Come from behind wins? 4,000yd passing seasons? 400yd games? Career passer rating? The sample size is quite ridiculous. I mean, last year Cam Newton had an incredible debut season. Really incredible. Yet, I don't here people saying he's the best player in the NFL now. To proclaim somebody as the best player in the league, they have to do things like win, on a regular basis and when the pressure is on. He can potentially be great but I've seen enough couple-of-year careers to know that the sample size we have at the moment is minuscule. Ten best rookie QB seasons of all-time. For comparisons. Dan Marino is a great shout for being that good straight away, setting a passer rating record for a rookie as well as being the first rookie QB to start in a Pro Bowl. Oh, and they won their division too. Also, the following season he turned in an outstanding year, breaking the passing TD record at the same time. Marino stayed pretty good throughout his career too.

Adamjk wrote: Not saying he hasn't been impressive, but there's no way I would call a rookie, who's only 11 games into his career, the best player in the NFL. Exactly. I mean, how many playoff wins does he have? How many clutch performances? Come from behind wins? 4,000yd passing seasons? 400yd games? Career passer rating? The sample size is quite ridiculous. I mean, last year Cam Newton had an incredible debut season. Really incredible. Yet, I don't here people saying he's the best player in the NFL now. To proclaim somebody as the best player in the league, they have to do things like win, on a regular basis and when the pressure is on. He can potentially be great but I've seen enough couple-of-year careers to know that the sample size we have at the moment is minuscule. Ten best rookie QB seasons of all-time. For comparisons. Dan Marino is a great shout for being that good straight away, setting a passer rating record for a rookie as well as being the first rookie QB to start in a Pro Bowl. Oh, and they won their division too. Also, the following season he turned in an outstanding year, breaking the passing TD record at the same time. Marino stayed pretty good throughout his career too.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:04 pm  

Wiz wrote:

Time for my weekly picks. I was 11-2 last week. Here goes.

Chicago - Ponder will struggle with Bears defence.
Cincinatti - On a little roll at the moment
Pittsburgh - Batch at quarterback, still win though.
Buffalo - Defence looked like it should last week
Jacksonville - Henne, Shorts and Blackmon to carry on from last week
Denver - Manning v Cassel
Seattle - Miami doesn't have weapons to trouble Seahawks defence
Atlanta - TB to come unstuck
Chargers - Not sure why, just a hunch
Arizona - Due a win and Bradford looking a bust
New Orleans - On the road at the dome too much for Kaepernick
Green Bay - Best team in the league right now, it will be close though.
Panthers - Eagles dressing room has gone

Next season we should start a pick-em league on here to see who knows what they're talking about,probably a little too late now to start this season.Looking at your picks this week Manning is up against Quinn not Cassel but it won't make any difference as he's no better.