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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:24 am  
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Live t.v games for Week 17

Sunday January 2nd
6pm – Tampa Bay @ New Orleans
9.15pm – Chicago Bears @ Green Bay

NFL sjitzone is on the red button :SLEEPY:

Channel 4 will have St Louis @ Seattle on SNF from 1:20 am


Sky obviously learned their lesson regarding NFL SheisseZone. The two games for this week look good and hopefully it'll be snowing in Green Bay as it won't be the same not seeing a Green Bay home game in the snow.
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:39 am  
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I cannot believe you are still banging on about this.

The United States has a legal system that means that, when people have paid their debt to society, they are allowed to get on with their lives. Michael Vick went to prison and lost, roughly, $100million. By any measure, he paid for what he did. Having done so, he should be allowed to get on with his life. What should he do - hang himself?

I thought you were studying law?

As for MVP, I agree, it should be Brady.


Yes I am studying law. I'm well aware of how legal systems work and the theories of punishment (consequentialism and retributivism amongst others). My view on Vick has nothing to do with the law, as you say he has succesfully served his sentence, but my morals/ethics.

He has served his sentence (whether it was proportionate to the crime is another question as is whether he has paid for what he did) and should be allowed to re-intergrate into society. No question about that. However that doesn't mean he should walk back into the NFL.

The NFL has a position of power/responsibility/influence which IMO when you commit a crime such as Vick's you should forfeit. You don't automatically walk back into your old job after you've committed a crime so why is the NFL any different? Not only that but is Vick prevented from getting a "normal job"?

The same applies for Stallworth etc IMO. Including Jolly from us. I don't think he should be allowed back in the NFL.

He should be allowed to get on with his life, just not in the NFL. It isn't his right to play in the NFL, it is a privilege which should be taken away from people like him.
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:02 am  
Shock result last night in Philli!

I had the Eagles as genuine superbowl contenders but not after last night! It's proven now by both the Vikes and the Giants that if you consistantly blitz Vick you get all kinds of joy!
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:05 am  
Joe Webb: QB of the Future?
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:39 am  
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Joe Webb: QB of the Future?


He looked pretty composed for a rookie. He made the correct throws and moved about well in his pocket. I'd like to see more of him!
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:11 pm  
The NFL are conspiring not to have the Bucs in the playoffs. I tell ya! First Atlanta playing like crap on Monday meaning we need other things out of our control to go our way now. Then the Vikes beating the Eagles last night! It means Chicago are guarenteed a bye now and might rest a few against the Packs, a game we need them to win if we are to have any chance of progressing. Damn you Mike Vick! Damn you Matt Ryan! You're all running scared of us! ;)
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:21 pm  
Dodo wrote:
Joe Webb: QB of the Future?


You never know.
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:39 pm  
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Yes I am studying law. I'm well aware of how legal systems work and the theories of punishment (consequentialism and retributivism amongst others). My view on Vick has nothing to do with the law, as you say he has succesfully served his sentence, but my morals/ethics.

He has served his sentence (whether it was proportionate to the crime is another question as is whether he has paid for what he did) and should be allowed to re-intergrate into society. No question about that. However that doesn't mean he should walk back into the NFL.

The NFL has a position of power/responsibility/influence which IMO when you commit a crime such as Vick's you should forfeit. You don't automatically walk back into your old job after you've committed a crime so why is the NFL any different? Not only that but is Vick prevented from getting a "normal job"?

The same applies for Stallworth etc IMO. Including Jolly from us. I don't think he should be allowed back in the NFL.

He should be allowed to get on with his life, just not in the NFL. It isn't his right to play in the NFL, it is a privilege which should be taken away from people like him.



Are you just upset because he may knock you out of the playofss in the divisional round? :wink:
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:40 pm  
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The NFL are conspiring not to have the Bucs in the playoffs. I tell ya! First Atlanta playing like crap on Monday meaning we need other things out of our control to go our way now. Then the Vikes beating the Eagles last night! It means Chicago are guarenteed a bye now and might rest a few against the Packs, a game we need them to win if we are to have any chance of progressing. Damn you Mike Vick! Damn you Matt Ryan! You're all running scared of us! ;)



Try beating a good team and people may take notice. :wink:
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Re: The all new NFL Chat thread : Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:52 pm  
If the Eagles play like they did last night they wont be beating anyone in the playoffs
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