Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:24 pm  

Aren't Liverpool likely to fall into the bank's hands on 15 October? Assuming that happens (and also assuming they can avoid administration at the same time) they'll be in a much better position to get a sale. It would be madness to try and buy them now, better to wait until it's a bank selling rather than a crackpot American.

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:23 pm  

More and more looking like Leeds part 2.

Instead of money being spend on big signings chasing the dream etc replace that with Millions going on debts.

Big problem happens when the debts gets bigger we need to sell players to fund the debts next thing you know the club/team is in free fall, budgets etc were made with two things happening in the next 12 months a) A good run in the Uefa cup b) European football next season.

It really isn't far away.

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 1:26 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Well you're getting it wrong already.

I never said it was a good tackle. I just don't feel it was the terrible assault that it's been made out to be. I don't feel that Shawcross did anything wrong and think it was a case of "5Hit happens", sadly.

Yes, it was a bad tackle.

It was a ball and player challenge that has been outlawed from the game. The contact with the ball was minimal. Ben Arfa was already being covered by another Citeh player and there was no need for such a reckless and dangerous tackle.

It's got **** all to do with the clubs involved. I've said this before, but the tackle by Shawcross on Adebayor (when he was an Arsenal player) should have been a straight red.

I defended Adebayor over his alleged stamping on van Persie against Arsenal.

I'm simply judging the incidents on how I see them.

1. If the Shawcross incident happened to a Chelsea player you would be crying into your cheerios. Don't give me all this Sh happens rubbish. That was a needless tackle if you ever saw one.

2. De Jong- as much as I think he is a dirty player, the tackle against Ben-A wasn't half as bad as the Shawcross one. It was just a solid challenge, he won the ball, and a free-kick wasn't even given.

3.. Of course has got to do with the clubs involved. You have blinkers on!

4. I don't see how you can defend somebody stamping on someone elses face, unless of course he was an Arsenal player....oh that's right!

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:34 pm  

Can't believe people are defending de Jong's tackle, deary me.

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:51 pm  

ash4hullfc wrote: Can't believe people are defending de Jong's tackle, deary me. Any defending needs their head testing, or their MASSIVE blue specs removing. Not sure if it's been posted, but he's beed dropped from the dutch squad following the challenge.

ash4hullfc wrote: Can't believe people are defending de Jong's tackle, deary me. Any defending needs their head testing, or their MASSIVE blue specs removing. Not sure if it's been posted, but he's beed dropped from the dutch squad following the challenge.

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:12 pm  

Super Kevin Davies

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:12 pm  

ash4hullfc wrote:

Can't believe people are defending de Jong's tackle, deary me.

The only people I have heard about criticising De Jong’s tackle are Alan Green, Stan Collymore and Newcastle fans.

The challenge was unnecessarily hard, that I won’t deny. De Jong didn’t need to tackle as strongly as he did. However, it was a fair challenge.

As for the Dutch coach…. LOL at the irony. Van Marwijck (sp?) betrayed Holland’s footballing heritage at the WC by setting up his team in order to kick lumps out of the opposition, rather than out-play them. Now he has dropped De Jong for a strong tackle. Unbelievable.

Best of luck to Ben Arfa in his recovery.

Interesting to hear whether or not you think the tackles on Tevez (by Coloccini) and Milner (by Tiote) were less ‘volent’ and ‘aggressive’ than De Jong’s challenge. IMO they were a degree worse (although I want to make it clear that I am not accusing the ref of bias towards Newcastle, it was quite the opposite. We were very lucky).

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:15 pm  

RedTez wrote: Any defending needs their head testing, or their MASSIVE blue specs removing. Not sure if it's been posted, but he's beed dropped from the dutch squad following the challenge. I'm not defending it. But its nowhere near as bad as the Shawcross one. De Jongs wasn't even a foul!!

RedTez wrote: Any defending needs their head testing, or their MASSIVE blue specs removing. Not sure if it's been posted, but he's beed dropped from the dutch squad following the challenge. I'm not defending it. But its nowhere near as bad as the Shawcross one. De Jongs wasn't even a foul!!

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:18 pm  

Enfield Exile wrote:

Interesting to hear whether or not you think the tackles on Tevez (by Coloccini) and Milner (by Tiote) were less ‘volent’ and ‘aggressive’ than De Jong’s challenge. IMO they were a degree worse

Have a word with yourself.

Re: Football Chat : Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:20 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

I'm not defending it. But its nowhere near as bad as the Shawcross one. De Jongs wasn't even a foul!!

Only because Martin Atkinson is a clown and didn't give it.