Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:45 pm  

oggy123 wrote:

i knew Westbrook is but he will definatly get picked up. Didnt know about white though was just thinking aout hes size he will get the short yardage red zone attempts and a few TD's but looks like that gone down the s**ter lol

There is a decent young running back at the NYG called Andre Brown, he is a bit down the depth chart but may be worth a risk.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:25 pm  

Lupus wrote:

I'd start Braylon Edwards if I were you, with Holmes being there he will get more room to work.

I've not set my line-up yet so he might end up starting at my flex position but i think in general the Jets are the most over-rated team in the NFL and IMO will not make the play-offs.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:27 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I've not set my line-up yet so he might end up starting at my flex position but i think in general the Jets are the most over-rated team in the NFL and IMO will not make the play-offs.

I wouldn't say that. Which areas would you say they're weak? Did anybody watch MNF classics on ESPN last night?

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:57 pm  

Lupus wrote:

I wouldn't say that. Which areas would you say they're weak? Did anybody watch MNF classics on ESPN last night?

They are being built up in the media as a real contender when in reality they only did so last year becuase Indy decided they didn't want to win.

They have a brilliant defence and a good o-line but i question there ability to match teams in a high scoring game which your going to have to do to win a championship. It is not going to be possible for them to just run all game and the NFL is a passing first league.

Sanchez is decent but he had 8 more INT's than TD's. If you play the way they do then he must be more efficient. Sanchez and some fairly inconsistent recievers are the problem.

Some of the decisions they have made in the off-season for example to replace the leading rusher they had (Thomas Jones 1,400+ and 14TD's) with LT is strange along with bringing in some players who are hardly known for good character (Cromartie and Holmes).

They are a good team and will fight for the wildcard spot (IMO it'll finish 1. Miami. 2. New England. 3. NYJ. 4. Bills) but i just don't buy them being placed with the likes of Indy, New Orleans, us, San Diego etc as any kind of favourites.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:33 pm  

I dont think San Diego will do much this year, their best pure reciever hasn't signed his tender and has a looming suspension, their running game is an unknown at the minute and they've not got a nose tackle AFAIK. Their secondary could be suspect in places as well.

I think they may not even make the playoffs.

Playoff Predictions:


AFC:

Indy [#1]
Baltimore [#2]
Miami [#3]
Oakland [#4]

New England [#5]
Tennessee [#6]


NFC:

New Orleans [#1]
Minnesota [#2]
Dallas [#3]
San Francisco [#4]

Philadelphia [#5]
Green Bay [#6]

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:42 pm  

Lupus wrote:

I wouldn't say that. Which areas would you say they're weak?

QB, RB, DL, LG, RG, S, K, P, KR, PR, OLB

A lot of weaknesses there, replacing Faneca with a divII rookie, a good RB with a kid with fumble problems, a washed up Complainian and Joe McKnight who couldn't even handle one days rookie minicamp, Slausen is the worst guard I've ever seen play, Folk was rubbish in Dallas so NY in winter will be hilarious to see him try and kick in, Pace is good but Taylor is past it, the DL is old & injury prone. Sanchez will be a monumental bust.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:23 pm  

My play-off predictions and without looking at schedules, the rough amount of wins they will get:

AFC East Winners: Miami (#4 seed: 9 wins)
AFC West Winners: San Diego (#3 seed: 10 wins)
AFC North Winners: Baltimore (#1 seed: 13 wins)
AFC South Winners: Indy (#2 seed: 11 wins)
AFC WILDCARD: New England (#5: 9 wins)
AFC WILDCARD: Houston (#6: 9 wins)

NFC East Winners: Philadelphia (#3 seed: 10 wins)
NFC West Winners: San Francisco (#4 seed: 8 wins)
NFC North Winners: Green Bay (#2 seed: tough schedule so between 11-13 wins)
NFC South Winners: New Orleans (#1 seed: 13 wins)
NFC WILDCARD: Minnesota (#5 seed: 10 wins)
NFC WILDCARD: Dallas (#6 seed: 9 wins)

Both of the final wildcard spots are difficult. I could see Oakland getting ahead of Houston and likewise Carolina getting ahead of Dallas.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:44 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

AFC East Winners: Miami (#4 seed: 9 wins)

Sorry but Miami, really? the same team who's beat reporter is saying this team has the WORST pass rush he's ever had the misfortune of seeing in his career? Not to mention Koa Misi & Cameron Wake are garbage against the run, and the NT has retired.

They still only have one WR, Henne looks down his targets so coverage is going to lean on Marshall. Wildcat is dead on top of that.

8-8 at best for them this year.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:05 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

:lol:

Sorry but Miami, really? the same team who's beat reporter is saying this team has the WORST pass rush he's ever had the misfortune of seeing in his career? Not to mention Koa Misi & Cameron Wake are garbage against the run, and the NT has retired.

They still only have one WR, Henne looks down his targets so coverage is going to lean on Marshall. Wildcat is dead on top of that.

8-8 at best for them this year.

So i'm only 1 win out.

How you can say Misi is garbage when he hasn't even played a down.

NT they have moved the end inside and drafted Odrick to play end in the 34. Linebacker wise they signed Dansby who is a great ILB. Rush wise they are obviously in a transition period, similar to us last year. We had two rookies (after Kamp went down) at pass rusher and turned out OK.

I think your under-rating their offence. Henne is a good solid QB and doesn't check down any more than Orton, with whom Marshall managed to get 1,100+ yards and 10 TD's. They have some other decent guys like Bess (750 yards), Hartline (500 yards). Marshall being present also keeps the defences honest and opens it up for the running game.

I definately think they have the talent to win the division.

Re: NFL Chat 4 : Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:11 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

How you can say Misi is garbage when he hasn't even played a down.

Against the run he couldn't tackle college backs so he's going to struggle bit time against the NFLs best.