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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:18 pm  
The coin flip has been made. Jacksonville are 10, Denver 11. Titans 16, San Fran 17. Atlanta 19, Houston 20. I'll change the order in my post so whoever quotes me will have the right order.

1 St. Louis Rams - QB Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2 Detroit Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4 Washington Redskins - OT Russell Okung, offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5 Kansas City Chiefs- S Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6 Seattle Seahawks - - C.J. Spiller, RB Clemson - Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7 Cleveland Browns - QB, Jimmy Clausen - If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8 Oakland Raiders - OT Bruce Campbell - Fastest tackle availible. :wink: Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9 Buffalo Bills OT Anthony Davis - This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10 Jacksonville- Jason Pierre Paul DE- They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:39 pm  
1 St. Louis Rams - QB Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2 Detroit Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4 Washington Redskins - OT Russell Okung, offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5 Kansas City Chiefs- S Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6 Seattle Seahawks - - C.J. Spiller, RB Clemson - Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7 Cleveland Browns - QB, Jimmy Clausen - If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8 Oakland Raiders - OT Bruce Campbell - Fastest tackle availible. Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9 Buffalo Bills OT Anthony Davis - This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10 Jacksonville- Jason Pierre Paul DE- They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
11 Denver Broncos ILB Rolando McClain best LB in the draft, great leadership, good tackler and a pass rush threat
12 Miami Dolphins
13 San Francisco 49ers
14 Seattle Seahawks(from Denver)
15 New York Giants
16 Tennessee Titans
17 San Francisco
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22 New England Patriots
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:10 pm  
1 St. Louis Rams - QB Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2 Detroit Lions - DT Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT Gerald McCoy next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4 Washington Redskins - OT Russell Okung, offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5 Kansas City Chiefs- S Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6 Seattle Seahawks - - C.J. Spiller, RB Clemson - Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7 Cleveland Browns - QB, Jimmy Clausen - If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8 Oakland Raiders - OT Bruce Campbell - Fastest tackle availible. Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9 Buffalo Bills OT Anthony Davis - This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10 Jacksonville- Jason Pierre Paul DE- They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
11 Denver Broncos ILB Rolando McClain best LB in the draft, great leadership, good tackler and a pass rush threat
12 Miami Dolphins Dez Bryant top WR in the draft,ran into a problem with the NCAA but too good for the Fins to pass on.
13 San Francisco 49ers
14 Seattle Seahawks(from Denver)
15 New York Giants
16 Tennessee Titans
17 San Francisco
18 Pittsburgh Steelers
19 Atlanta Falcons
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21 Cincinnati Bengals
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:23 pm  
1] St. Louis Rams - QB - Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2] Detroit Lions - DT - Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3] Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT - Gerald McCoy. Next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4] Washington Redskins - OT - Russell Okung. Offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5] Kansas City Chiefs - S - Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6] Seattle Seahawks - RB - C.J. Spiller. Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7] Cleveland Browns - QB - Jimmy Clausen. If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8] Oakland Raiders - OT - Bruce Campbell. Fastest tackle availible. Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9] Buffalo Bills - OT - Anthony Davis. This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10] Jacksonville - DE - Jason Pierre Paul. They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
11] Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - ILB - Rolando McClain. Best LB in the draft, great leadership, good tackler and a pass rush threat
12] Miami Dolphins - WR - Dez Bryant. The top WR in the draft,ran into a problem with the NCAA but too good for the Fins to pass on.
13] San Francisco 49ers - CB - Joe Haden. Falls out of top 10 due to other teams' needs. The Niners need a young talented guy in the secondary.
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:35 am  
] St. Louis Rams - QB - Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2] Detroit Lions - DT - Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3] Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT - Gerald McCoy. Next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4] Washington Redskins - OT - Russell Okung. Offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5] Kansas City Chiefs - S - Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6] Seattle Seahawks - RB - C.J. Spiller. Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7] Cleveland Browns - QB - Jimmy Clausen. If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8] Oakland Raiders - OT - Bruce Campbell. Fastest tackle availible. Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9] Buffalo Bills - OT - Anthony Davis. This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10] Jacksonville - DE - Jason Pierre Paul. They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
11] Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - ILB - Rolando McClain. Best LB in the draft, great leadership, good tackler and a pass rush threat
12] Miami Dolphins - WR - Dez Bryant. The top WR in the draft,ran into a problem with the NCAA but too good for the Fins to pass on.
13] San Francisco 49ers - CB - Joe Haden. Falls out of top 10 due to other teams' needs. The Niners need a young talented guy in the secondary.
14] Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) - OT Bryan Bulaga from Iowa. Seattle needs OL help badly with Big Walt set to hang them up. Bulaga was dominant in the Orange Bowl and fills the Seahawks needs here.
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16] Tennessee Titans -
17] San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) -
18] Pittsburgh Steelers -
19] Atlanta Falcons -
20] Houston Texans -
21] Cincinnati Bengals -
22] New England Patriots -
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Feb 27, 2010 1:10 am  
1] St. Louis Rams - QB - Sam Bradford. The Rams opt for a franchise QB.
2] Detroit Lions - DT - Ndamukong Suh. Best player in the draft IMO. Although McCoy is also a beast, so he could be taken over Suh.
3] Tampa Bay Buccaneers - DT - Gerald McCoy. Next best D line man, will help pass and run D
4] Washington Redskins - OT - Russell Okung. Offensive line should be a priority for the Skins
5] Kansas City Chiefs - S - Eric Berry. The best safety available and the next Ed Reed. Berry is simply an amazing Safety. He will be brilliant. I think they need an OT but with Okung gone they'd have to reach. I'll give them the BPA insted.
6] Seattle Seahawks - RB - C.J. Spiller. Seattle looking for a franchise RB, haven't had one since Shaun Alexander, and can't see Forsett being that
7] Cleveland Browns - QB - Jimmy Clausen. If he drops, the Browns take him and deal with Quinn and Anderson later.
8] Oakland Raiders - OT - Bruce Campbell. Fastest tackle availible. Also has the potential to be a quality LT in the NFL.
9] Buffalo Bills - OT - Anthony Davis. This is a little early for Davis, but the Bills pull the trigger because of need.
10] Jacksonville - DE - Jason Pierre Paul. They could go Tebow but his stock is falling so i think they wait and manage to get him in round two, or trade back up into the end of round 1. As it is they take JPP. A great rusher but a one year wonder like Vernon Gholston. They need to take a chance since they have few sacks on the year.
11] Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - ILB - Rolando McClain. Best LB in the draft, great leadership, good tackler and a pass rush threat
12] Miami Dolphins - WR - Dez Bryant. The top WR in the draft,ran into a problem with the NCAA but too good for the Fins to pass on.
13] San Francisco 49ers - CB - Joe Haden. Falls out of top 10 due to other teams' needs. The Niners need a young talented guy in the secondary.
14] Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) - OT - Bryan Bulaga. Seattle needs OL help badly with Big Walt set to hang them up. Bulaga was dominant in the Orange Bowl and fills the Seahawks needs here.
15] New York Giants - LB - Brandon Spikes. The Giants need a linebacker following the departure of Pierce, Spikes is going to potentially be a beast I think.
16] Tennessee Titans -
17] San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) -
18] Pittsburgh Steelers -
19] Atlanta Falcons -
20] Houston Texans -
21] Cincinnati Bengals -
22] New England Patriots -
23] Green Bay Packers -
24] Philadelphia Eagles -
25] Baltimore Ravens -
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:02 am  
V For Vendetta wrote:
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/user_mock_drafts.cfm?mock_id=9236

My 1st round mock draft



We won't get Iupati. We have no need for a guard at all. Plus McCoy will never drop to 10.
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:25 pm  
Bruce Campbell solidifies his status as Al Davis' probable first round pick

And I could see McCoy slipping a bit tbh, if the Rams take a QB, the Lions take Okung and the Bucs take Suh, who else in the top 10 will go for him? Too many 3-4 teams in there. Maybe Seattle would go for him, though they'd prefer a QB, Washington is a maybe as well.

Remember how Aaron Rodgers & Brady Quinn were possible #1 picks? They slipped into the 20s.
Bruce Campbell solidifies his status as Al Davis' probable first round pick

And I could see McCoy slipping a bit tbh, if the Rams take a QB, the Lions take Okung and the Bucs take Suh, who else in the top 10 will go for him? Too many 3-4 teams in there. Maybe Seattle would go for him, though they'd prefer a QB, Washington is a maybe as well.

Remember how Aaron Rodgers & Brady Quinn were possible #1 picks? They slipped into the 20s.
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Re: NFL Chat 3 : Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:55 pm  
V For Vendetta wrote:
Bruce Campbell solidifies his status as Al Davis' probable first round pick

And I could see McCoy slipping a bit tbh, if the Rams take a QB, the Lions take Okung and the Bucs take Suh, who else in the top 10 will go for him? Too many 3-4 teams in there. Maybe Seattle would go for him, though they'd prefer a QB, Washington is a maybe as well.

Remember how Aaron Rodgers & Brady Quinn were possible #1 picks? They slipped into the 20s.


Of course anything is possible, Suh could drop to the 20's for all we know, it's unlikely though. There is a vast difference between QB's falling and DT's though.

The Lions will take whichever DT is left. Suh or McCoy. They are 100% sold on Backus who they currently have at LT, they have been asked and every comment says they like him. They have also said the draft strategy they have (last year they said this) was to take the best player available since they have so many holes to fill, ie taking Pettigrew over Oher and Delmas in round 2. Suh/McCoy would be BPA.

Barring trades up/down and if the order stays as is both Suh and McCoy will go top 3 whichever way you look at it. If the Rams take Suh then the Lions get McCoy. If the Rams take a QB then McCoy/Suh go to Lions/Tampa.

Also i think some of your trades are strange in your mock. I'll post my mock draft later.
V For Vendetta wrote:
Bruce Campbell solidifies his status as Al Davis' probable first round pick

And I could see McCoy slipping a bit tbh, if the Rams take a QB, the Lions take Okung and the Bucs take Suh, who else in the top 10 will go for him? Too many 3-4 teams in there. Maybe Seattle would go for him, though they'd prefer a QB, Washington is a maybe as well.

Remember how Aaron Rodgers & Brady Quinn were possible #1 picks? They slipped into the 20s.


Of course anything is possible, Suh could drop to the 20's for all we know, it's unlikely though. There is a vast difference between QB's falling and DT's though.

The Lions will take whichever DT is left. Suh or McCoy. They are 100% sold on Backus who they currently have at LT, they have been asked and every comment says they like him. They have also said the draft strategy they have (last year they said this) was to take the best player available since they have so many holes to fill, ie taking Pettigrew over Oher and Delmas in round 2. Suh/McCoy would be BPA.

Barring trades up/down and if the order stays as is both Suh and McCoy will go top 3 whichever way you look at it. If the Rams take Suh then the Lions get McCoy. If the Rams take a QB then McCoy/Suh go to Lions/Tampa.

Also i think some of your trades are strange in your mock. I'll post my mock draft later.
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