Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:32 pm  

I think it makes it easier to move KD to DOF, leaving the door open for a new manager in the summer.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:46 pm  

Saint Viper wrote:

I think it makes it easier to move KD to DOF, leaving the door open for a new manager in the summer.

Possible, but wouldn't be too wise unless Kenny actually wanted to do that. A while back I read a few interesting pieces talking about DoFs. One of the best points made was that DoFs shouldn't want to manage, they shouldn't have any desire to be tactical, to coach a side or to control a team, they should have purely scouting ability and the ability to judge a player. If a DoF has a need/desire to be involved in the team, it can make the relationship between him and the manager strained - clarity of roles is pivotal to make the thing a success. If we moved Kenny to DoF and brought in a manager under him, say, Rafa Benitez as an example, would Kenny be able to stay away from the team and accept a role completely distanced from the playing staff? It's debatable.

If FSG are to continue with the DoF route, I always think it's better that a DoF brings in his own manager so that everything is clear with regards to roles and vision. I mean, what if we brought in a new DoF this summer that only wanted U23 players with the long term in mind, but Kenny wanted 25+ players to come in and immediately compete? The DoF can definitely work in football, look at clubs across the continent to see it done successfully, we just haven't done it as well as them in England.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:21 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Not that it will happen as Liverpool have some curse over David Moyes, but if Liverpool were to lose the Semi Final would you want Kenny sacked?

Seriously there is no curse, it is simply a case of Moyes and his team not being good enough when it's mattered against Liverpool.

[John_D]

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:38 pm  

Smiggs wrote:

Seriously there is no curse

WHAAATTTT???? Serious? I suppose you'll be telling us that homeopathy doesn't work any better than placebo and that you can't turn base metals into gold next.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:48 pm  

John_D wrote:

WHAAATTTT???? Serious? I suppose you'll be telling us that homeopathy doesn't work any better than placebo and that you can't turn base metals into gold next.

Sorry I forgot the

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:31 pm  

The cull at Liverpool continues

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:10 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote: A bit of research of your own would have found this: Following Comolli's departure on Thursday, Dalglish said: "He has been really helpful in every transfer target that we've gone for. "Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice. Once I made the choice who I wanted, Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in. "It's sad to see anyone leave the football club and he goes with my best wishes." From http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17687524 Sounds to me like Dalglish taking responsibility for identifying transfer targets.

Andy Gilder wrote: A bit of research of your own would have found this: Following Comolli's departure on Thursday, Dalglish said: "He has been really helpful in every transfer target that we've gone for. "Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice. Once I made the choice who I wanted, Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in. "It's sad to see anyone leave the football club and he goes with my best wishes." From http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17687524 Sounds to me like Dalglish taking responsibility for identifying transfer targets.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:14 pm  

So was Comolli basically Kenny's PA?....

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:48 am  

Roddy B wrote:

Well that will explain why Comolli has been sacked. Simply put, he was being paid to do absolutely nothing. He was given the title of DoF, but was actually doing nothing. Kenny will obviously come out and say the players were his choice, but FSG appointed Comolli to find players. They wanted unproven players, cheap players where they were 'ahead of the game' and didn't have to pay any premium. As an example, they would rather sign Cheick Tiote from Twente or Anderlecht, than Newcastle at £15m. He clearly didn't find any suitable players. Can you really expect Kenny Dalglish to go watching every game in Europe to identify players?

As I keep on saying, I think the transfers were a combination of both. Kenny clearly wanted the players, but I do believe Comolli had a large influence on everything with regards to transfers. I have repeated endless frustrations at our transfer policy, and those frustrations have been aimed at both Kenny and Comolli, but why people try to solely blame Dalglish when he clearly had somebody over him who was actively involved in everything people are blaming Kenny for, is beyond me. Comolli has been sacked, Kenny's future remains to be seen, but it's clear there have been errors made by everybody involved and we're in desperate need of a 'rethink'.

Don't you find it strange, that the indiviual who has a pretty damn good track record in scouting european based players, effectively signed the bulk from the Premiership? The conspiracy theorist in me, wonders if Comolli modus operandi had been undermined by a manager wanting players with proven premiership/international experience, which makes his role untenable/redundant.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:06 am  

If city win all their remaining 5 games which includes the game against united, it will only take a draw from united in one of their other 4 fixtures for them to be level on points and for the title to go down to goal difference and the last game of the season.

City have 3 goals advantage at the moment so assuming the above scenario takes place with city win all 5 including united, and united drawing one of their other 4 you'd probably say city would win on goal difference unless united get a big win from somwehere.

Of course this is assuming city can beat United, no easy task when a title is on the line, this is assuming they can correct the poor away form and then that united will slip up elsewhere as well.

United have done this with chelsea before. Been in control, dropped points to give everyone hope......but then no, sees it out and wins the title.