: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:21 pm  

Ashmeister wrote:

He missed 3 run outs and one missed catch in the last over

Hitting the wicket without the ball

Add that to his gash bowling performance in his other overs and i'd say he was our worse player.

Am i right in thinking that if he never threw that last ball, it would of gone into a super over ?

not a great last over, but what were they chasing 7 or something, that's not his fault, it would have been 'get out of jail' if england had got anything out of it at that point.

Holland put England under pressure in the field from ball one, clattering those that were there to be clattered, and taking ones and two off virtually every other delivery -. smart cricket from the novices.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:56 pm  

oh dear

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:02 pm  

Ashmeister wrote:

Am i right in thinking that if he never threw that last ball, it would of gone into a super over ?

Correct

am I right in thinking he did exactly the same thing a couple of years ago

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:17 pm  

As usual in limited overs cricket, England fielded a scratch team: players totally unestablished in the team in unfamiliar positions: Morgan at 4, Key at 6 -what was that all about. Morgan's reverse sweep was a toal embarrassment. We just don't have a cohesive unit.

If we hadn't faffed about, the middle order would have pulverised Holland after a solid start by Bopara & Wright. Why so many new boys? We took them lightly and paid for it.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:02 pm  

You just knew we were in trouble when KP wasn't in the side!

I bet he could have played aswell but they thought 'sod it, it's only Holland'. Well they look like a right set of mugs now!!

We simply don't have enough big hitters in the side. We hit zero 6's whilst Holland managed 4! Just about sums it up.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:14 pm  

Knaresborough Rhino II wrote:

Correct

am I right in thinking he did exactly the same thing a couple of years ago

That was Swann. According to the radio.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:33 pm  

Though there were some terrible individual England perfomers (I use the term lightly) in the field, the batting wasn't too bad.

Well done Holland, I say. Terrific run chase and a thoroughly deserved win.

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:26 pm  

richardviking wrote:

Well done Holland, I say. Terrific run chase and a thoroughly deserved win.

Do they get a Dutch cap?

: Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:33 pm  

Ashmeister wrote:

Stuart Broad is absolutely gash!!

Anderson is the only decent bowler we have.

You really are clueless aren't you?

Sure he was $hite in this game, which for many isn't even seen as cricket.

But FFS, Broad has been one of, if not the, stand out performer for England in the past year. Give the lad a fooking break. We shouldn't be relying on run outs to beat Holland anyway.

: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:04 am  

If anybody gave the game away bowling it was Rashid and his 36 runs.I thought Broads last over was quite good,he had a chance for a c&b and 2 chances for a run out,but i'm wondering is where was the leadership to say don't throw the ball away before he bowled the final ball.
For me I would get rid of Collingwood and give Key the captaincy as he lead Kent to the title last season and has far more knowledge of how to play this style of cricket than Collywobble.