Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:53 am  

Nikaed wrote:

Ooops.


Fancy believing somebody who posts on the internet.

I didn't say it was gospel. I said "according to a decent ITK" who, as a matter of fact got the Carroll and Henderson signings down to a tee. People who proved themselves can be listened to.

Also, Henderson was concluded. We were gazumped on Jones (which i've admitted) and Oysten seems to not be playing ball over Adam. Same with Villa and Downing. I'll be very surprised if neither of them sign so 3 of the 4 will hopefully have signed. OK, not in the 10 day timeframe I suggested although it won't be too far out.

Catalancs wrote:

You yourself posted that Jones, Wickham and Downing would be signing in June. I also recall you saying Adam and Mata were targets. Weren't you the Liverpool fan who said you thought you'd get Clichy for £8 million or less?

ABL?

So when you said

Catalancs wrote:

Proof? Are we in court your honour? No flower, I just trust the knowledgable (no offence) Liverpool fans on here who've said so.

You actually did mean me? What did Clichy go for in the end? £7 million? As we were rumoured favourites at the time and City hadn't offered him £53 million a week at the time, I may have said that I thought we'd get him for £8 million and it looks like I wouldn't have been far out if he hadn't turned out to be a mercenary and gone to City for the cash.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:56 am  

Nikaed wrote:

I see why Liverppol want Downing. When you spunk £35 million on the new Michael Ricketts, you have got to have someboydy who can get him the ball. Same with Adam, a cracking player who'll fit right in. I can see a bit of a log jam though. Who starts when all fit?

The new Michael Ricketts? What gives you that impression? Not convinced by him tearing every top 6 defence apart last season?

If we sign Adam and Downing as rumoured I'd imagine we will start with

Reina

Johnson
Carragher
Agger
New LB

Gerrard
Henderson
Lucas

Downing
Carroll
Suarez

As our strongest 11. Adam, Meireles and Kuyt would probably expect to all start in our best 11 though.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:05 pm  

Do any of the Liverpool fans on here think they got a bit giddy in spending the Torres money straight away in what was basically a lost cause for the rest of the season? Would Liverpool with a £100M transfer kitty in the summer have been more attractive to potential signings during the off season?

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:41 pm  

Karlos13 wrote:

Do any of the Liverpool fans on here think they got a bit giddy in spending the Torres money straight away in what was basically a lost cause for the rest of the season? Would Liverpool with a £100M transfer kitty in the summer have been more attractive to potential signings during the off season?

Good question. It seems though that Henry hasn't really set out a kitty. EG, obviously hypothetically, if Messi came available we'd pay a set figure for him, whether that be £100 million or not just as long it represented value with regards resale values and what he could achieve for the club. It's widely stated that as long as we made £15 million on the Carroll-Torres deal we would be happy. Carroll being a lost cause for the rest of the season didn't end up mattering due to Kuyt and Suarez form and also the fact that the season itself was already a lost cause in many respects. I think we HAD to buy a striker in January to prove that we were not just becoming a selling club. As it's turned out we've swapped Torres and Babel for Carroll and Suarez and I know which I'd rather have.

Still, I see the point that players may have been more willing to come knowing we had a huge warchest. I still think that some of the players we have at the club are good enough to persuade others to join. The issue Liverpool now have is that United, Arsenal and Chelsea are ahead of us currently in terms of being an attractive proposition to sign for and City have money that will blow most teams out of the water. We'll have to be canny and hope that Kenny unearths some gems that other teams aren't yet looking at. I'm fairly confident he'll be able to do that.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:48 pm  

Sthelens RLFC wrote:

Good question. It seems though that Henry hasn't really set out a kitty. EG, obviously hypothetically, if Messi came available we'd pay a set figure for him, whether that be £100 million or not just as long it represented value with regards resale values and what he could achieve for the club. It's widely stated that as long as we made £15 million on the Carroll-Torres deal we would be happy. Carroll being a lost cause for the rest of the season didn't end up mattering due to Kuyt and Suarez form and also the fact that the season itself was already a lost cause in many respects. I think we HAD to buy a striker in January to prove that we were not just becoming a selling club. As it's turned out we've swapped Torres and Babel for Carroll and Suarez and I know which I'd rather have.

Still, I see the point that players may have been more willing to come knowing we had a huge warchest. I still think that some of the players we have at the club are good enough to persuade others to join. The issue Liverpool now have is that United, Arsenal and Chelsea are ahead of us currently in terms of being an attractive proposition to sign for and City have money that will blow most teams out of the water. We'll have to be canny and hope that Kenny unearths some gems that other teams aren't yet looking at. I'm fairly confident he'll be able to do that.

To be fair, you have your name to attract players and being Englands second most succesful club.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:16 pm  

Adam deal agreed with Blackpool

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:18 pm  

Great signing for Liverpool that.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:20 pm  

Downing was the difference between the two sides when we played them at Villa Park.

I think a lot depends on Liverpool shipping out the dead wood still. Jovanovic (£120k a week), nobody will pay him that, but thats football these days when you dont pay a transfer fee in the Bosman market. Joe Cole will be on a tidy sum too. David Ngog been touted around as a part exchange in any deal Liverpool are trying to do, but not sure Villa really want him. But with him, Bent & Agbonlahor up front you cant say theoretically that they are short of pace up top if they do decide to take him. Add Aqualani and a few others and I bet you have near to £400k a week in wages off the clubs books if they suceed in getting rid.

Charlie Adam tweeted he is looking forward to returning to training with Blackpool tomorrow, but doubt it will only be for a few days until the deal is done.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:21 pm  

Saint Viper wrote:

Adam deal agreed with Blackpool

When did that happen ? Talksport only reported an hour ago about the Adam tweet.

Re: Football Chat Thread : Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:28 pm  

The balls he will put in for Carroll will be top. I think he'd have linked up really well with Torres ala Xabi Alonso.