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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:32 am  
Swann now ranked 2nd in the world. Imagine anyone predicting that 18 months ago?
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:51 am  
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Swann now ranked 2nd in the world. Imagine anyone predicting that 18 months ago?



Unbelievable and with one more test to go over there and the Bangladesh team coming over to play in England followed by Pakistan he'll have every chance of getting to number 1 i'd imagine.

I just can't help wondering have we picked him 4 or 5 years too late? Maybe he wasn't mature enough back though going off a few of the things i've read.
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:24 pm  
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The big mistake England made was pre match in playing 6 batters. If we can't back a 5 man batting line up plus Prior in this series then we probably never will and we're not going to win the Ashes at the end of the year with only 4 bowlers imo.

Time for them to show some guts and leave out a batter in favour of Tredwell for the next test. I'd probably leave out Carberry but Trott must also be under some pressure.

As you say, the mistake was in the balance of the team. One spinner and only one experienced seam bowler in a four man attack, and no "batting all-rounder" of note. Broad, Bresnan, Swann & Tredwell are all good enough to bat at least 8 in county cricket; occupying positions 7, 8, 9, 10 against Bangladesh in a Test they would have given us enough insurance against a middle order collapse. Playing the same opposition at Durham in May, last week's team selection would have been fine but a fifth bowler (especially with Tredwell having showed up so well in the warm up game) would have been of more use than a specialist batsman at 6 in these conditions. Bowling them out twice in tropical heat on a slow pitch was always going to be more challenging than making more runs than them.
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:38 am  
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Bowling them out twice in tropical heat on a slow pitch



Which they did. I don't expect England to tinker with a winning team at all.

Why did Cook not use Collingwood at all to give his front line attack a breather?.....
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:16 pm  
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Why did Cook not use Collingwood at all to give his front line attack a breather?.....


And Colly bowled pretty well in the one day games aswell.

I've read he may be carrying an injury thats preventing him from bowling.
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:49 am  
Now I've absolutely nothing against James Tredwell and as the only other spinner in the current squad it's right that he's playing in this test...however, what does he offer at 28 and a containing off-spinner that Adil Rashid at 22 and an attacking leg-spinner doesnt???
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:17 am  
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Which they did. I don't expect England to tinker with a winning team at all.

Neither did I, so we were both taken by surprise.

We ought to outscore Bangladesh under any circumstances; the point I was trying to make is that a more bowler-centric selection would in theory make for a lower scoring match and reduce any danger of Bangladesh batting for long enough to escape with a draw.

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Why did Cook not use Collingwood at all to give his front line attack a breather?.....

It's been a weakness of England Test cricket for many years now that other countries seem to have top order batsmen who can do a servicable job as fourth seamer or second spinner, whereas the likes of Collingwood and Pietersen are given a couple of overs here and there but don't seem to be trusted to do more than just give the main bowlers a breather. Our captains just don't seem to regard them as a genuine bowling option, which Collingwood given his experience and variations of pace certainly ought to be in subcontinental conditions. (Or in English conditions for that matter.) Today Collingwood bowled one over for eight runs. I'm not sure at which juncture he bowled his over, but why wasn't he trusted to have a spell of half a dozen? It seems that our part-time bowlers are expected to have an instant impact and if they don't they're not worth perservering with.
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:11 pm  
Pray thanks for the return of old school test cricket :D

Some may say negative batting, i would say far more negative bowling. Besides, England don't have to make the running.
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 am  
Even god got bored with Trott and decided to intervene :lol:
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Re: Super Cricket - England on tour : Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:04 pm  
Nice knock by Bresnan, showed he's not just a big lad who can come in down the order and lump it around in ODIs.

Potentially gives the selectors an interesting dilemma come the summer - presumably Tredwell makes way for Anderson, but do England stick with five specialist batters and in which case who makes way to accomodate the return of Strauss?
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