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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:58 am  
He's closer than any other England player - which says a lot about the sub-standard of the rest of the players!!
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Sep 08, 2014 2:31 pm  
Rooney is another England player who has failed to reach his potential. At one time he was electric. Now he appears off the pace technically and in term of game awareness. His sharpness of mind isn't up to the standard required at the highest level. If he had lived up to his legend they would never have signed RVP and now Falcao, players who clearly have that footballing intelligence. That's not to say he can't improve it but being shunted out to the wing being a supporting role for better players i.e. fake Ronaldo, RVP, has damaged his game.

He should have been/should be an English Maradona yet he's more like Tevez (on the field). Now he's supposed to be a No.10 yet England have a kid, in Sterling, who is creating the same kind of buzz with the same kind of energy and fearlessness that Rooney had and it shows. Sterling is playing better in that role but the decision to give Rooney the captaincy means he'll have to play in a key role. I'm not blaming him for England's poor performances because that's down to the coach. However, it serves to highlight that he is neither the player we thought he would turn out to be nor the player his reputation suggests.

Van Gaal may work wonders with him we don't know. Whatever happens he will have to improve because he's no longer in that tier below Messi and fake Ronaldo.
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Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Sep 08, 2014 7:46 pm  
Haha that first touch from Rooney. A true world class striker would have buried that first time, not taken a first touch like an elephant

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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Sep 08, 2014 9:21 pm  
That's exactly it isn't it. He's not used to playing one-touch football like those who play in more adventurous teams and that's what I meant about him being a step behind the play. You could say it's confidence, and some of it is, but seeing as he's been like that a while I'm more inclined to believe in it being part of his game make-up these days.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon Sep 08, 2014 11:10 pm  
Everything considered, i thought it was a decent performance and a very good result for England tonight. I only realised this morning that the top 2 automatically qualify for the Euro's,and even though we've been pants of late, i think top 2 for us in that group was pretty much a gimme, and tonights result is a great start.
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Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:05 am  
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Everything considered, i thought it was a decent performance and a very good result for England tonight. I only realised this morning that the top 2 automatically qualify for the Euro's,and even though we've been pants of late, i think top 2 for us in that group was pretty much a gimme, and tonights result is a great start.


Absolutely! It could have and should have been 4 or 5 nil which would have been even better.

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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:28 pm  
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That's exactly it isn't it. He's not used to playing one-touch football like those who play in more adventurous teams and that's what I meant about him being a step behind the play. You could say it's confidence, and some of it is, but seeing as he's been like that a while I'm more inclined to believe in it being part of his game make-up these days.


The most worrying thing about Rooney is the press around him is surpassing Gerrard levels of myth. When Benitez first came to Liverpool, he played Gerrard out on the right with much success, he played very well, yet we were repeatedly told he had to play centrally, so he could get on the ball more and 'drive' the play. Eventually, Gerrard found his best form playing centrally behind Torres, but still we were told he should play in midfield next to Alonso or Mascherano. Anyway, we're hearing similar things about Rooney, everybody seems to know where he should play and where he's at his best. Can somebody tell me the last time Rooney gave a masterclass of playing in 'the hole'? When did he last put together a performance of a proper 10? When was he last a creative force during a game? What about the last time he ran at people and beat them repeatedly through the middle of the pitch? Some people argue Rooney's best position is as a '9', but he isn't a target man, he isn't prolifically quick and his movement is hardly instinctive, is it? I was watching England the other night against Norway and Townsend was complaining because Rooney was playing 'almost as an inside left', apparently he needed to be central so he could influence the game more. Every time England line up we're told Rooney needs to influence the game more, but it doesn't matter where he is on the pitch, he isn't that influential because he isn't anywhere near as good as people think he is. Suarez last year for Liverpool appeared pretty much everywhere in the final third and influenced the game no matter where he picked the ball up.

There's no doubting Rooney has ability, he's pretty creative, his dribbling can be good and his finishing can also be good, but I can't remember the last time I thought he fully influenced a game, where I thought the opposition couldn't stop him, or where he gave a masterclas in playing a position. He's simply a talented player who seems to be slacking a little as an athlete, I can't see anybody other than Sterling and Barkley being the future of England's team, I think it's about time we either start using Rooney off the bench or he looks to find a new role on the pitch, as he won't playing up front for United if RVP and Falcao are fit, and I don't see him offering the creativity of Mata or Di Maria as a '10'.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:19 pm  
Amen.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:11 pm  
Wembley gets Euro 2020 semi-finals and final. Is that a consolation prize for getting shafted on the WC bid?
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:26 pm  
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Wembley gets Euro 2020 semi-finals and final. Is that a consolation prize for getting shafted on the WC bid?


No, it's a purely financial decision.
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