: Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:46 am  

yeah i think anyone could manage the top 4 with the resources they are given not knocking Ferguson and Wenger too do it over a period like they have is awesome but the always had substantial financial backing. And well im not sure i would be happy with tevez, Robben and Lescott. Would love to see Eto'o here but cant see it happen would really like to see us try to bring in Muntari always looked godd at Pompey adapted the conditions over here well. And even try a cheeky bid for Van Persie and Yaya. Leave Kolo Toure and Adebayor at Arsenal both overrated.

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:28 am  

oggy123 wrote:

yeah i think anyone could manage the top 4 with the resources they are given not knocking Ferguson and Wenger too do it over a period like they have is awesome but the always had substantial financial backing.

I hate to break it to you, but Ferguson hasn't just managed Man United. He managed St Mirren. A First Division title won won him the Aberdeen job. At Aberdeen, 3 Scottish Premier League titles, 4 Scottish cups and a Cup Winners Cup earned him the Man United job. At Man United he's won 2 Champions Leagues, 11 Premier League titles, 5 FA Cups, 3 League Cups and a Cup Winners Cup.

If you really want to say that David Moyes trumps that with his second division title it's okay, but it is moronic.

Now lets compare Moyes with Benitez. Benitez has won the La Liga with Valenica as well as the UEFA Cup. At Liverpool he has won the FA Cup and the Champions League. If you want to say that Moyes's second division title trumps those it's okay, but it's moronic.

Arsene Wenger has won the French league and a French cup. At Arsenal he's won 3 titles and 4 FA Cups. He's managed to reach a CL final. He's consistently managed to compete at the top with a tiny budget compared to his competitors. It's not quite moronic to say that Moyes's second division title makes him a better manager than Wenger, but it's still pretty stupid.

I'm not overly convinced by Ancelotti, but his two CL wins and a Serie A title and Cup win are also worth massively more than Moyes's trophy haul.

There's no doubt that Moyes is one of the highest rated managers in Britain right now. He's probably done enough to deserve a chance at a bigger club to show he can perform at that level. But you just don't skip that part and laud him as the best before he even manages to get a top job. Moyes could get a top job and fall on his face like Scolari did. There's a host of managers who have done well at mid-ranking sides but failed completely when given a chance higher up.

When Moyes takes the step up and wins things he'll deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the top managers. ATM he'd probably lose out in a debate over whether him or Joe Royle were the better manager.

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:49 am  

Conroy wrote:

Good luck to Valencia. Never worth that amount of money in the memory of man so a good bit of business from DW.

Hopefully Latics can unearth another gem now

How much is that? Isn't the fee undisclosed? Unless you have access to all the transfer amounts like the LFC fans do, or alternatively we can ask Wire 85 to post that fantasy net spending graph what that scouse journalist made up, you know...the one where Tevez cost 32 mill and Skrtel wasn't even on it.

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:37 am  

Dan_FC wrote:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

To be honest I don't see how you're moving forward yet, what is there to suggest you're moving forward?

Since the takeover we've signed Robinho, Bridge, De Jong, Given, Bellamy, Barry & Santa Cruz.

It does seem that Tevez is all but signed up.

We've made bids for Lescott & Toure. Whether those players sign remains to be seen, but if they dont its more than likely that we will sign a couple of defenders of comparable ability.

The media tend to focus on the signing of Robinho and the failed bids for Kaka and Eto'o. But the reality is that most of City's recruitment has been focused on hard working players, mostly with Premiership experience. Hughes has the formed the basis for a very solid squad with a sprinkling of flair players.

Considering that City's last result before Hughes took over was an 8-1 defeat at Boro, I'd say we were moving forward.

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:07 am  

Citeh are definitely moving forward. And at a guess they'll probably spend about a billion pounds to get into Everton's position. Very good VFM.

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:16 am  

United's new kit modelled by Nani

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:18 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

United's new kit modelled by Nani

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:18 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

United's new kit modelled by Nani

Good un that, you didn;t answer my question with regards to Michael Johnson? How has he turned into a porker?

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:20 am  

Enfield Exile wrote:

United's new kit modelled by Nani

Black chevron et al. Is that Rooney behind him?

: Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:25 am  

Mark wrote:

Good un that, you didn;t answer my question with regards to Michael Johnson? How has he turned into a porker?

He doesn't give a sh*t does he? That's what I heard. Wants the life of a premiership footballer (more footballers wives style actually), without the hassle of "training" and the like. A typical Urmston scroat.