Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:37 pm  

100% Wire wrote:

Most of the teams left in it are average, which begs the question, just how sh*t ARE England?

We are very sh*t, but during the first two games we actually did okay. Agree about most of the teams being average. But it's lead to an excellent World Cup having lower quality teams.

I do feel a little bit sorry for Neymar the player, but not the person, he's an arrogant c*ck. Scolari hasn't covered himself in much glory either, whining about Neymar being 'targeted' yet Rodriguez and, to a lesser extent, Alexis Sanchez in the Chile game were kicked off the park, add to that Brazil have committed the most fouls so far

It was a nothing challenge, which is only whined about because he got injured. Scolari is just using the injustice to push his country/team. He knows he's lying but any coach will lie if it helps his team.

That Brazil side are a bunch of chancers, living off past greats, and i sincerely hope they don't win it, if i had to choose then i'd like Holland to win it..... even if Robben IS a complete t*t.

The Brazil side don't compare to the mythic Brazil sides, but even the mythic sides don't actually live up to the myths. They are nowhere near as bad as they are slated as.

Robben isn't a complete t*t, he's just a little bit of one. Yes, he'd go over to win a pen. But nearly every player he's up against would gladly break his ankle if it meant they'd win, and many of them have tried. A few have succeeded.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 4:14 pm  

FIFA looking at possible retrospective action against Zuniga for the injury to Neymar.

I wonder, did FIFA ever get round to checking for retrospective action against Neymar for his elbow against Croatia.....

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:44 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

FIFA looking at possible retrospective action against Zuniga for the injury to Neymar.

I wonder, did FIFA ever get round to checking for retrospective action against Neymar for his elbow against Croatia.....

Of course they did... oh wait, no they didn't

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:05 pm  

Well Netherlands are still in it, but only just.
I want them to win it but I didn't like the antics of the replacement goalkeeper.
I'd have told him to stop it and booked him each time he did it after that.
Get in your goal or get booked.
Sure it worked out for him but it's a poor precedent for behaviour.
The game is fooked when gamesmanship bordering on cheating is tolerated.
What would happen if a goalie was sent off in a shoot out?

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:14 pm  

What did he do wrong? I'm a lover of all things competitive, and it looked to me like he was trying to psyche them out of it.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:24 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

What did he do wrong? I'm a lover of all things competitive, and it looked to me like he was trying to psyche them out of it.

He did nothing wrong.
I look forward to the next golf play off (for example ) when just as a player is going for a winning putt, his opponent walks in front of him and tells him he is going to miss it.
There would be uproar.
But there is a bit of honour in some sports.
Not so football.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:47 pm  

I remember watching the Ryder Cup a few years back, Anthony Kim was whooping in front of Sergio Garcia throughout their round and Sergio was mentally battered. I thought it was a bit much from Kim, but it seemingly gave him an edge over his opponent.

I've watched basketball for years and trash talk is a huge part of that sport. For me, it's fantastic to see how far somebody will go for a mental advantage over an opponent. It seemed nasty to see because Holland were the favourites and the 'big boys', but Krul had to gain every advantage possible. You can be sure as hell talk like that goes on in every sport at nearly every level, it's got nothing to do with honour.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:00 am  

Roddy B wrote:

I remember watching the Ryder Cup a few years back, Anthony Kim was whooping in front of Sergio Garcia throughout their round and Sergio was mentally battered. I thought it was a bit much from Kim, but it seemingly gave him an edge over his opponent.

I've watched basketball for years and trash talk is a huge part of that sport. For me, it's fantastic to see how far somebody will go for a mental advantage over an opponent. It seemed nasty to see because Holland were the favourites and the 'big boys', but Krul had to gain every advantage possible. You can be sure as hell talk like that goes on in every sport at nearly every level, it's got nothing to do with honour.

You're welcome to it.
Win at any cost.
I would have been surprised if I had any allies in my view.
Honour, what an old fashioned notion.
Sportsmanship ditto.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:37 am  

Roddy - I'm not going to go back through the thread because you might have taken a holiday that week, but was Chelsea's blatant timewasting from the first minute of our game at Anfield acceptable or unacceptable?

I thought the referee was utterly appalling with his control of Krul. Krul made it clear that he was going to absolutely take the urine from the start and he just stood there and let him.

Players have strict rules where they all need to stand and what they need to do. But now keepers can go for a walk while the his opponent is waiting? The keeper can just come forward for a chat?

Look forward to any shootouts in subsequent matches taking 3 times longer because keepers come up with increasingly stupid ways to put players off.

The referee should have ordered Krul back to his line as soon as he walked out. If Krul ignored it he should have booked him. If Krul continued he should have sent him off.

I don't blame Krul. I blame that moron of a ref.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:40 am  

Stand-Offish wrote:

What would happen if a goalie was sent off in a shoot out?

They would have had to replace him. Normally the back up keeper would be used. As Krul was the back up keeper and the other keeper was substituted it would have had to have been an outfield player.

That would have been funny.