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| 3 straight wins for the Jets and the D looking to be getting more like itself again. The offence is still far too fitful but the receivers actually made plenty of catches yesterday and Shonn Greene had his best game for a long time too. Albeit against a woeful Bills.
Massive game next week now. Can we beat the cheats and send them to 3 defeats in a row and take top place in the division? If the D plays like that then we have a real chance.
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| Quote Ordsall Quays Red="Ordsall Quays Red"Can we beat the cheats'"
The Jets will beat the Jets?
Illegal off-season activities (coaches attending Jets West)
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Despicable organisation.
As for the game - the Jets should win, if they don't it just shows what a fraud team they really are.
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| We lost our opening game yesterday at Derby, 48-6 in the end. They scored on the opening kickoff and our Offence fumbled 6 times in the first half, leading them to score freely.
Our top receiver/punter dislocated his shoulder after a Derby player flipped him after the play, refs ignored it.
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| Truly superb work Ordsall 
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| Barring Matt Forte having the worst game in NFL history I should be marching on to 8-1 in the fantasy league. Conroy your boys have taken one hell of a beating
On the fraud point Gronk! Belichick has 3 rings with the Pats. Exactly 0 of them have come since your lot got rumbled. Go figure.
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| Quote Ndamukong="Ndamukong"On the fraud point Gronk! Belichick has 3 rings with the Pats. Exactly 0 of them have come since your lot got rumbled. Go figure.'"
Oh you mean since he got caught for having a camera in an uncovered location?
Filming signals is fine...if you have the cameras in designated covered locations in the stadium.
It's nothing at all to do with that - losing Vrabel, McGinest, Harrison, Seymour, Samuel, Law, Milloy, Bruschi, Colvin however, is.
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"Oh you mean since he got caught for having a camera in an uncovered location?
Filming signals is fine...if you have the cameras in designated covered locations in the stadium.
It's nothing at all to do with that - losing Vrabel, McGinest, Harrison, Seymour, Samuel, Law, Milloy, Bruschi, Colvin however, is.'"
Bringing out that old nugget again. We've been over this in the past. You said the Pats won only because of Brady then changed your mind when they started losing. All I know is you have stank in the playoffs since you were rumbled. Can't be d to go over old ground so that's all I'll be saying on the matter.
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| Quote Ndamukong="Ndamukong"All I know is you have stank in the playoffs since you were rumbled. Can't be d to go over old ground so that's all I'll be saying on the matter.'"
Yep, I can't believe they got to a Super Bowl since that happened
You only don't want to go over it because you're wrong, the rule the Patriots broke was the location of the cameras the only reason you make any sort of deal about it is because the sub-standard franchise you support lost against the minnows which sparked the downfall.
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"Yep, I can't believe they got to a Super Bowl since that happened
You only don't want to go over it because you're wrong, the rule the Patriots broke was the location of the cameras the only reason you make any sort of deal about it is because the sub-standard franchise you support lost against the minnows which sparked the downfall.'"
The rule they broke saw them given the largest punishment in NFL history as far as I know. $500k for Belichick, $250k for the Pats and your 1st rounder. Yet you seem to want to sweep it under the carpet?
I'm more than over your lot beating us in the Superbowl. You've been cleared of wrong doing on that one so no complaints from me. I still use it to try get a reaction out of LFC but usually fail  The point I'm trying to make is you are 2-3 in the playoffs since you were rumbled. That's been nice and giving you the 2 games you won in the season you were rumbled.
BTW we are and will probably be for a while to come. The e since that Superbowl loss makes it considerably easier to take the defeat.
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| Well at least you take it better than Raider fans who blame Brady and Brady only for costing them "multiple" Super Bowl wins and the reason the franchise is laughable at the minute 
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"Well at least you take it better than Raider fans who blame Brady and Brady only for costing them "multiple" Super Bowl wins and the reason the franchise is laughable at the minute
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The reason that franchise is a mess is due to Al Davis (may he rest in peace). Seems they have continued his mental strategies of the past with the laughable Palmer trade!
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| Quote Ndamukong="Ndamukong"The reason that franchise is a mess is due to Al Davis (may he rest in peace). Seems they have continued his mental strategies of the past with the laughable Palmer trade!'"
That trade makes me think it wasn't Al coming up with the daft decisions all along!
But if Palmer is worth that much - how much will the Colts get for Peyton in the off season 
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"Well at least you take it better than Raider fans who blame Brady and Brady only for costing them "multiple" Super Bowl wins and the reason the franchise is laughable at the minute
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Not at all true.
We blame the useless referees and the awful coach who took over from Gruden. 
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| Quote CM Punk="CM Punk"Not at all true.
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When it was the Patriots @ Raiders game they were all blaming Brady
btw, the call was correct 
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"When it was the Patriots @ Raiders game they were all blaming Brady
btw, the call was correct
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The call was correct. The rule is an awful one.
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| Quote Ndamukong="Ndamukong"The call was correct. The rule is an awful one.'"
Not going to argue with that, it really is an awful rule.
Just not as bad as the current PI rules...why is it defensive PI if when the ball is underthrown and the WR turns and runs into the DB, is a flag thrown? That to me is just rewarding bad QB play.
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| We had a beauty of a call go against us yesterday.
The refs called a personal foul against a player for taking his helmet off on the field.
However he did this because he was concussed and didn't know where he was, so badly so that we took him to the ambulance and he didn't play the rest of the game.
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| Quote CM Punk="CM Punk"We had a beauty of a call go against us yesterday.
The refs called a personal foul against a player for taking his helmet off on the field.
However he did this because he was concussed and didn't know where he was, so badly so that we took him to the ambulance and he didn't play the rest of the game.'"
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| Well number 1 in the AFC, i have quite a nosebleed.. obviously not going to last but Andy Dalton and AJ Green are beasts and Carlos Dunlap is the best 4-3 end around at the moment. Go Bengals!!
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| Quote CM Punk="CM Punk"Not at all true.
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The one who took you to a superbowl?
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| Callahan piggybacked on Gruden's work, as shown in the Americas game from that year, he didn't actually change a single thing with the playbooks. Jon & Jay Gruden were able to play the part of Rich Gannon perfectly in practice, and the Bucs knew what the Raiders were doing the whole game.
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| Well I'm 0-9 in the Rlfans league along with Harrigan but we meet in week 14 so someone has to win a game eventually
I wouldn't mind but I have lost more games in this league than all my others combined, I'm 7-2/6-3/6-3 in my other 3 and leading/tied for the lead in the standings in them all I think so I surely have to make the play-offs for the 1st time ever? 
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| So, hows every ones run in looking? Its about the time now where those of us around .500 or so start looking at the other teams in the conference in a similar position.
We have a very tough game at the weekend against the Texans at Ray Jay followed by a sure loss against the Pack in Green Bay. At 4-6 we would have to probably win every game in then to have a chance. Following that though we have 5 "easier" games against Carolina x2, the Titans, Jacksonville and Dallas. If we can (big if) win these games then that should set up the final game against Atlanta as a possible "playoff" for the wildcard.
Texans (W?)
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@ Titans (W)
Carolina (W)
@ Jags (W)
Dallas (W)
@ Carolina (L) I have a feeling about that game
@ ATL (W)
OK, anything between 8-10 wins I reckon. If we lost to the Panthers I think we beat Ryan in the dome. If we beat the Panthers away I think we lost to ATL. It will take some effort to reach 10 wins though and in all honesty, I cant see it.
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| Quote danny boy="danny boy"Well number 1 in the AFC, i have quite a nosebleed.. obviously not going to last but Andy Dalton and AJ Green are beasts and Carlos Dunlap is the best 4-3 end around at the moment. Go Bengals!!'"
Dalton IMO has been equally as impressive as Newton, when you consider what he's got to work with.
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| Quote Harrigan="Harrigan"
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@ Carolina (L) I have a feeling about that game
@ ATL (L)
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That's how I'd have you down as finishing. Freeman is too erratic with the ball IMHO. Hoping you can win the 4th quarter is a bit of a reach. The Texans will run allover you. The Packers will put 40+ on you. Demarco Murray will go for 150+ against you. Then Cam and Matty Ice will finish you off. Promising young team, just not good enough in what is turning out to be a very balanced NFC.
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