Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 5:25 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

If liverpool win tonight they are back top, 1 game to go and suddenly the pressure shifts to city who must get maximum points from 2 games.

City have the advantage of being in this situation and winning the league, we've not. However, we've exceeded expectations this season and apart from the odd dip against Hull and WBA, we've still been up there challenging, when in the past, our heads have gone down and we've gone on a losing streak.

FlexWheeler wrote:

The odds say city will win both their games, but you never know, liverpool needs to apply that pressure. Look what nearly happened against qpr 2 years ago. Both west ham and villa have taken points off the top teams this season, away from home.

Newcastle won't be an easy game, but we are at home so that might tip the scales in our favour. Obviously that is bearing in mind we get a result against Palace. Whatever happens, it's lining up to be another very close end to a quite incredible PL season.

FlexWheeler wrote:

The problem for liverpool is mental, because of what happened last week and with it now being in city's hands theres the danger they'll think they've blown it, which is why, like you say, they may lose.

I don't think their mindset will be like that Flexy, they know they are still in with a shot, plus they know that a win tonight will eliminate Chelsea, and it will be a straight shootout between us and Manchester City.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:47 pm  

See, I knew it all along....

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:51 pm  

3-0 lead and they throw it away.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:55 pm  

It took us 55 minutes to score 3 goals.

It took Palace 9 minutes......

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:57 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

It took us 55 minutes to score 3 goals.

It took Palace 9 minutes......

No way they will pick themselves up for Newcastle now. If Villa beat City on Wednesday, I'll show my a**e in the Trafford Centre fountain.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:10 pm  

Lord god hose mourinho must have jizzed himself, circa 87 mins

Liverpools love affair with not being champions continues..... I don't think they'll get a better chance than this to become champions for a while.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:15 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

No way they will pick themselves up for Newcastle now. If Villa beat City on Wednesday, I'll show my a**e in the Trafford Centre fountain.

The way this season has gone, that's a very real possibility. Villa have destroyed Liverpool away in recent times and are a side with plenty of pace. If City are as tactically imbecilic as Liverpool are and just attack, attack, attack, they could quite easily pick them off too.

As funny as tonight's shambolic collapse was, I didn't celebrate that much beyond the run round the block, the high fives with the neighbours and the 23 texts. I somehow get the feeling that this isn't over yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see City draw both games, they are hardly in superb form themselves despite the run of victories. Very open defensively and without Auerro they won't be firing on all cylinders in attack either.

The blame for Liverpool's collapse today and loss last week should be firmly placed on Rodgers. He has developed a wonderful system with such amazing attacking fluidity and threat. But he must know his back four is appalling to a man and the keeper isn't that great either. Once you're in front or when you're in a game you don't need to win, there has to be a plan B to the all out attack? Combining such a shocking central defensive pairing with Gerrard dropping deep and it's a recipe for disaster. A lot has been made of Stevie G's move to the Pirlo role this season, but although he's contributing plenty to the forward movements, there has to be questions about it's validity from a defensive point of view. Whenever Liverpool are under the pump he retreats and retreats, hence his positioning when he gave the ball to Demba Ba last week. His effectiveness is questionable to say the least, often in no man's land as he's not got the mobility to get there. At 3-0 he should have been further forward playing keep the ball. Liverpool were still trying desperately to attack, forcing balls they didn't need to force. Calm down. Once the first Palace goal goes in, extra centre back, keep the ball, take the win.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:22 pm  

Liverpool have seriously f*cked up. 3 games to go, all in their hands. Only a draw against chelsea needed. They've completly blown it. In years to come, that gerrard slip will be the iconic moment of the title race. The second when the title slipped away from gerrard forever.

Liverpool will not get a better chance than this for........well I can't envisage they'll get a better chance.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:31 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Liverpool have seriously f*cked up. 3 games to go, all in their hands. Only a draw against chelsea needed. They've completly blown it. In years to come, that gerrard slip will be the iconic moment of the title race. The second when the title slipped away from gerrard forever.

Liverpool will not get a better chance than this for........well I can't envisage they'll get a better chance.

You can have a title chase and build on it, or you can blow a title race and it wrecks you mentally. The Fat Waiter blew his chance and his team collapsed the season after. Ron Atkinson was racing to the title, the wheels fell off and he was sacked a few months into the next season.

I cannot see Liverpool building on this season at all now. If there is any truth in the Real Madrid bid for Suarez I'd expect him to want out just to get rid of the memory of the end of this season.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:42 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

You can have a title chase and build on it, or you can blow a title race and it wrecks you mentally. The Fat Waiter blew his chance and his team collapsed the season after. Ron Atkinson was racing to the title, the wheels fell off and he was sacked a few months into the next season.

I cannot see Liverpool building on this season at all now.

Nah, me neither.

At the start of this season, you felt it was a potential chance for an outsider to grab a title win with chelsea, man city and united all with new managers. You feel now that the likes of city and chelsea have more improvement in them for next season than liverpool. United of course will be back in there. Liverpool will have strengthen just to remain in the top 4 having to deal with the CL when they've had the luxury of no europe at all this season. It's gone for liverpool now. It could have been the start of something, but instead this title challenge will just be a footnote, like those random years newcastle or leeds launched title challenges.