Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 5:19 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

The slightest slip from City means Liverpool will be champions. That factor alone should mean that Liverpool win their next two games. Palace is the most difficult task, but even that is a lot easier now than it was earlier in the season. Palace's success is mainly built on working themselves into the ground, and I don't see them really doing that.

Palace don't have anything to play for, they are safe. They have won 5 of their last 6 games though, including victories over Chelsea and Everton. Liverpool have everything to play for. We beat them 3-1 back in October. That's enough to suggest we should win this game. But as I'm me, I can't shake the negative thoughts that we'll slip up tonight. I'll probably only relax if we are 2 or 3 up at half time.

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

Liverpool will need to clear their heads from last week, but they've had 8 days to do that. I can see a pretty good Liverpool win so they finish on a high even if they are pipped to the title.

Unlike Liverpool teams of the past, I think they will have cleared their heads, no question. They know what is at stake. Thing is, even if we don't win the league, we've surpassed all expectations. Everyone connected with the club wanted CL football, we've got it. I don't think anyone expected at this stage of the season we would still be in with a shot of winning the title.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 5:20 pm  

Cibaman wrote:

I'm not sure it was wise of Rodgers to say that Liverpool are going to try to overturn the goal difference. Tonight's match is one that they should just try make sure of the points. If its 0-2 after 80 mins perhaps they could try a grab a couple in the last 10 mins. But going out with the aim of running up a large score could rebound on them. Hopefully.

I don't think he meant it seriously. I even said after the City game when I heard the goal difference would be +9 that there would be load of talk about Aldridge's last game for Liverpool where we battered Palace 9-0. Perry Suckling is not in goal, so that is enough to make me certain we WON'T score 9 tonight!

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 5:25 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

If liverpool win tonight they are back top, 1 game to go and suddenly the pressure shifts to city who must get maximum points from 2 games.

City have the advantage of being in this situation and winning the league, we've not. However, we've exceeded expectations this season and apart from the odd dip against Hull and WBA, we've still been up there challenging, when in the past, our heads have gone down and we've gone on a losing streak.

FlexWheeler wrote:

The odds say city will win both their games, but you never know, liverpool needs to apply that pressure. Look what nearly happened against qpr 2 years ago. Both west ham and villa have taken points off the top teams this season, away from home.

Newcastle won't be an easy game, but we are at home so that might tip the scales in our favour. Obviously that is bearing in mind we get a result against Palace. Whatever happens, it's lining up to be another very close end to a quite incredible PL season.

FlexWheeler wrote:

The problem for liverpool is mental, because of what happened last week and with it now being in city's hands theres the danger they'll think they've blown it, which is why, like you say, they may lose.

I don't think their mindset will be like that Flexy, they know they are still in with a shot, plus they know that a win tonight will eliminate Chelsea, and it will be a straight shootout between us and Manchester City.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:47 pm  

See, I knew it all along....

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:51 pm  

3-0 lead and they throw it away.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:55 pm  

It took us 55 minutes to score 3 goals.

It took Palace 9 minutes......

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 8:57 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

It took us 55 minutes to score 3 goals.

It took Palace 9 minutes......

No way they will pick themselves up for Newcastle now. If Villa beat City on Wednesday, I'll show my a**e in the Trafford Centre fountain.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:10 pm  

Lord god hose mourinho must have jizzed himself, circa 87 mins

Liverpools love affair with not being champions continues..... I don't think they'll get a better chance than this to become champions for a while.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:15 pm  

WireFanatic III wrote:

No way they will pick themselves up for Newcastle now. If Villa beat City on Wednesday, I'll show my a**e in the Trafford Centre fountain.

The way this season has gone, that's a very real possibility. Villa have destroyed Liverpool away in recent times and are a side with plenty of pace. If City are as tactically imbecilic as Liverpool are and just attack, attack, attack, they could quite easily pick them off too.

As funny as tonight's shambolic collapse was, I didn't celebrate that much beyond the run round the block, the high fives with the neighbours and the 23 texts. I somehow get the feeling that this isn't over yet. It wouldn't surprise me to see City draw both games, they are hardly in superb form themselves despite the run of victories. Very open defensively and without Auerro they won't be firing on all cylinders in attack either.

The blame for Liverpool's collapse today and loss last week should be firmly placed on Rodgers. He has developed a wonderful system with such amazing attacking fluidity and threat. But he must know his back four is appalling to a man and the keeper isn't that great either. Once you're in front or when you're in a game you don't need to win, there has to be a plan B to the all out attack? Combining such a shocking central defensive pairing with Gerrard dropping deep and it's a recipe for disaster. A lot has been made of Stevie G's move to the Pirlo role this season, but although he's contributing plenty to the forward movements, there has to be questions about it's validity from a defensive point of view. Whenever Liverpool are under the pump he retreats and retreats, hence his positioning when he gave the ball to Demba Ba last week. His effectiveness is questionable to say the least, often in no man's land as he's not got the mobility to get there. At 3-0 he should have been further forward playing keep the ball. Liverpool were still trying desperately to attack, forcing balls they didn't need to force. Calm down. Once the first Palace goal goes in, extra centre back, keep the ball, take the win.

Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Mon May 05, 2014 9:22 pm  

Liverpool have seriously f*cked up. 3 games to go, all in their hands. Only a draw against chelsea needed. They've completly blown it. In years to come, that gerrard slip will be the iconic moment of the title race. The second when the title slipped away from gerrard forever.

Liverpool will not get a better chance than this for........well I can't envisage they'll get a better chance.