Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:24 am  

Some very strange forum behaviour tonight. Everytime I seem to quote anyone, it seems to put my post above the one I'm quoting? As if I'm psychic?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:35 am  

By the way, an outstanding interview from John Barnes on Sky news before. http://news.sky.com/home/video/health/video/16144726 Not sure on some of his 'punditry', but on things like this he's bang on.

By the way, an outstanding interview from John Barnes on Sky news before. http://news.sky.com/home/video/health/video/16144726 Not sure on some of his 'punditry', but on things like this he's bang on.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:15 am  

If Suarez is innocent of the allegation then I think he has been massively let down by both his lawyers and LFC. You simply don't accept a guilty verdict and a flawed process if you're innocent. You fight for the truth and a fair hearing.

So if Suarez is innocent - shame on LFC for accepting the verdict and shame on his lawyers for being incompetent.

Now, I don't think that is what's happened. I think that Suarez is probably guilty of the offence. Not as bad as the hearing ruled, but nowhere near as innocent as he and LFC claim. And LFC are simply trying to discredit the verdict after the event because they know that an appeal will fail because the truth will always see him copping a guilty verdict and a ban.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:21 am  

Good riddance to Neil Warnock. Hopefully this is the last the PL sees of him.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:37 am  

Be lively at Anfield. I don't think Fergie will play Evra, not due to him being scared of a bunch of irishman and norwegians but mainly due to needing him fresh for the game against Stoke on the 31st.

Do Liverpool have a history of ill-discipline at the club? I know at United we have handled thing sinternally and banned people. Eric, Becks and Rooney last week as examples. Seems to be a problem at the club, or is it because they do "nottin rong"

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:48 am  

CORNISH wrote:

personally dont think evra will play at anfielld. doubt the lying coward has the bottle.

He will play as the best way to tackle racism/racists is head on. Should all black players now 'fear' going to Anfield?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:41 am  

J.T wrote:

Should all black players now 'fear' going to Anfield?

Do you mean opposition players?

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:58 am  

Roddy B wrote:

Depends on a few things really. Physically hitting someone is much easier to prove than an alleged conversation that nobody seen or heard. If Downing's bird has a black eye or a bruised jaw, then what could his defence be? If there's nothing wrong with her and it's been blown out of proportion, you'll probably see his name cleared in a couple of days. It's not great timing, but you can trust that the police would be able to handle it quite well without things being blown out of proportion. If it's proven, well, he'll deserve what he gets.

The speed with which its dealt depends to a large extent on whether anyone has actually made a complaint. But lack of injuries alone will not speed up the process. The police and CPS have to follow a fairly painstaking process in cases of alleged domestic violence, if that is what this is. Its a reaction to previous failings when the police were a considered a bit too quick to drop these types of cases. In particular they have to be sure that the alleged victim hasn't been pressured into withdrawing any allegations.

It could drag on for some time irrespective of whether he's committed an offense.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:00 pm  

Lord God Jose Mourinho wrote:

If Suarez is innocent of the allegation then I think he has been massively let down by both his lawyers and LFC. You simply don't accept a guilty verdict and a flawed process if you're innocent. You fight for the truth and a fair hearing.

So if Suarez is innocent - shame on LFC for accepting the verdict and shame on his lawyers for being incompetent.

Now, I don't think that is what's happened. I think that Suarez is probably guilty of the offence. Not as bad as the hearing ruled, but nowhere near as innocent as he and LFC claim. And LFC are simply trying to discredit the verdict after the event because they know that an appeal will fail because the truth will always see him copping a guilty verdict and a ban.

I posted a link on here a few days ago talking about a few things. From pieces I've read, Liverpool could only really have appealed to have a new three man committee/commission/whatever, but what would be the point of that if the FA would be selecting the people? Also, apparently if Liverpool wanted to take it to a higher court, like CAS, they would have needed the FA to agree to it. It's alleged that Liverpool are writing/have written to the FA asking for changes to the entire process. I'm not savvy enough about the FA laws or anything like that, so I can't really write a detailed response as to why Liverpool didn't appeal, but, from reading many pieces, it seems that under the FA's rules/laws, there weren't many grounds for Liverpool to appeal on.

Re: The Football Chat Thread : Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:19 pm  

flipper wrote: i assume as you are so clued up on libel, that you can back up that, which is hugely ironic given how much the stories changed coming out of klanfield. suarez, kuyt, comolli all changing their statements here you go. and of course evra never once changed his account did he !!!!!!!!!!!! oh hold on...... http://newsframes.wordpress.com/2012/01 ... hurnalism/

flipper wrote: i assume as you are so clued up on libel, that you can back up that, which is hugely ironic given how much the stories changed coming out of klanfield. suarez, kuyt, comolli all changing their statements here you go. and of course evra never once changed his account did he !!!!!!!!!!!! oh hold on...... http://newsframes.wordpress.com/2012/01 ... hurnalism/