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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:06 am  
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If we play Walcott or the Ox on the right, Glen Johnson will be the recipient of football sodomy.


Completely agree. Milner may not be the fastest, most inventive player but they hardly had a sniff down his flank until he started to run out of steam. If we play Walcott down there we'll effectively be playing 4-2-4 which will see us get torn apart.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:12 am  
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Just looked up Graham Carr in a reference book of Football league Players Records 1946-92.

b.Newcastle 25/10/44, centre half, England Youth international.

He was originally an apprentice at Northampton Town and played 85 league games from 1962-68, which was during their amazing rise and fall from Division 4 to Division 1 and back again.

Signed for York City in June 1968 and made 33 appearances.

Signed for Bradford PA in July 1969 and made 42 league appearances in what must have been the club's final season in the Football League.

I know he continued playing non-league football during the seventies for various clubs including either Dartford or Maidstone United (possibly both) and is a very experienced manager in his own right, mostly at Conference level with Nuneaton Borough and Kettering Town. I think he also managed Northampton Town for a while.


That would have made him 24 when he signed for BPA. Incredible! He looked about 40.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:50 pm  
We were far from at our best yesterday but we got the result. I fancy us against the Italians.

Every report I've read about the game says that Ukraine were unlucky with the Terry clearance and now Sepp is calling for goal line technology, but nobody has mentioned that the guy was a mile offside. Why isn't Sepp criticising his officials?
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:52 pm  
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Did Mark's love child play last night? Anomynous.
Always has to be an MUFC scapegoat, even when the team are doing well.
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Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:13 pm  
John_D wrote:
And no, I don't know why Italy are being so casually dismissed.


By who?

I don't think anyone is dismissing them at all. I think people are understandably happy that England have avoided the arguably more difficult task of facing the World & European Champions.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:21 pm  
Paul HHZ wrote:
By who?

I don't think anyone is dismissing them at all. I think people are understandably happy that England have avoided the arguably more difficult task of facing the World & European Champions.

Seen and heard plenty of comment suggesting that England just need to show up.
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Widnes will be glad to get away from Leigh. They've been regularly pumped, roasted and left in the alley-way by the lobbygobblers. Talk about being bitched - what a torrid time they've had. They'll be looking for some A&E rest time for the next three years at least.

Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:38 pm  
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Seen and heard plenty of comment suggesting that England just need to show up.


I think it must be a minority viewpoint, because the comments I've read and the opinions I've heard all agree that England are in for a tough game, and will have done well to progress any further.

I always find it amusing that people always seem to see/hear these sort of comments or know these sorts of people. Are these from the same people that supposedly claim that it's Liverpool's year every year?
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:47 pm  
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Seen and heard plenty of comment suggesting that England just need to show up.


I haven't.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:35 pm  
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And no, I don't know why Italy are being so casually dismissed.



Its simple, they aren't Spain....We had all got ourselves prepared for being runners-up in our group and having to face the 'unbeatable' Spain, not expecting the French to muck up versus the Swedes, so to suddenly be up against a seemingly inferior (to Spain) side like Italy, has given everybody a realisation that this hotch-potch of a team, that Hodgson has squeezed 3 decent results from, might suddenly be just 1 game from a major final.

I don't think Italy are being dismissed by anybody, but I think its more that the arrogant, nauseating bullishness, that the English media is famous for, has reappeared and now a side that originally had no pressure on it, will now have the huge weight of expectation plonked right on its shoulders by all and sundry.

Personally, I'm happy enough with the results - Hodgson has obviously realised we are pretty dire, and has adjusted accordingly - but its apparent that a decent side should be able to pick them apart. Our passing is rotten, our ball retainment is no better. Only the spirit of the players gives England fans any hope, but you have to feel that a Germany, Spain, or even an Italy, should have enough about them to see off England.
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Re: Football Chat Thread - Euro 2012 edition : Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:57 pm  
Oh NOW Blatter wants goal-line technology....
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