Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:52 am  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Well you think he's had a good enough season to make a Pro Bowl regardless of the daft voting system or not. Surely that means you think he's been in the upper echelon of QB's this season making him a top QB at least for this season in your eyes surely? He's had a good year but he's put up no real yardage (less than 200 yards a game)

Read this again as this is my opinion why he got in the probowl.

LFCPatriotRhino wrote:

This year Matt Cassell had the 4th most passing TD's in the AFC and 3rd least INT's in the AFC and they are the first stats people look at aswell as how many wins the players team had therefore he deserves his place in the team

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Cassel is the franchise QB. Thigpen, Smith and Anderson clearly aren't. I think Miami thought Henne could be but he's been a major flop. I personally think there are a lot of QB's out there I would prefer to Matt Cassel. Don't see why there is such a major reaction to this opinion to be honest.

It's called my opinion you know like yours is that Cassell is a bad QB!

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:55 am  

Ok then. I can't be arsed to keep going over old ground. The proof will be in the future pudding.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:56 am  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

I read my first mock draft for next season yesterday. Noticed it had the Pats taking a QB in the first. Is Brady looking to call it a day soon?

He signed a 4 year contact with a lot of money and is still playing at a high level so I would suggest that it's probably just the "experts" getting it wrong as usual, it wouldn't suprise me if we drafted one in a later round incase Brady is unable to start the season with his foot injury that would back-up Hoyer and maybe become a project QB for after Brady Retires.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:58 am  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

Ok then. I can't be arsed to keep going over old ground. The proof will be in the future pudding.

In other words you are not interested in other peoples opinion's because you think your right?

Your right though his future seasons will show how good he is/isn't, to judge his career by the 2 years's he's had as a franchise QB is just stupid

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:59 am  

LFCPatriotRhino wrote:

In other words you are not interested in other peoples opinion's because you think your right?

I think I will be proved to be right yes. The guy can't win games without a running game. If Charles goes down hurt early next season it could be a very ugly season for Cassel.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:05 am  

El Pac Carnegie wrote:

I think I will be proved to be right yes. The guy can't win games without a running game. If Charles goes down hurt early next season it could be a very ugly season for Cassel.

It could be yes, but he could also be asked to win them the games and do so, until it happens who knows?

I guess I'm just a glass half full person

If you think about it he has never really been asked to go win a game, at the Patriots he just got asked to make no mistakes and did well because of the supporting cast, in his first Chiefs season he was basically treated like a rookie and now in his second the running game has developed so he is in the position again where he doesn't have to do much, it's hardly his fault and when he has had to get some TD's he has done it well, of course they didn't have a very hard schedule so doing it consistently will be hard the same as it is for every QB, no one is expecting him to become the best QB in the league just to make some throws when he has to!

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:42 am  

Are we still doing the prediction thing of Mark's?

I think I only have Green Bay left but I'm not sure if I even have them

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:54 am  

LFCPatriotRhino wrote:

Are we still doing the prediction thing of Mark's?

I think I only have Green Bay left but I'm not sure if I even have them

Yeah. I can pick in both. Steelers and Packers again for me.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:57 am  

People are getting this Cassel thing wrong. I don't think many are doubting that he isn't top draw, he isn't even worthy of a pro bowl selection. The argument is that he isn't the worst QB in the league, which is what Conroy said many moons ago. Which he isn't. So now and again people post little friendly pops to remind him of another of his wrong statements.

Re: The All new NFL Chat thread including playoff talk : Fri Jan 21, 2011 12:05 pm  

Interesting read SC. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/n ... id=6042455

Interesting read SC. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/n ... id=6042455