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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:34 pm  
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Can't be bothered searching them but they were along the lines of Moyes calling the Everton fans an Fing disgrace after how they treated him last night. Shouldn't take too much searching on twitter.


In 10 years in charge of Everton Moyes had NEVER won away at any of the big clubs. Roberto Martinez does it in his first game, away against last seasons champions. So I'm not surprised he comes out with a pathetic little diversion to deflect attention away from just how badly he's doing.

IMO Everton fans took him leaving exceptionally well while he was still Everton manager. Don't think there was any significant backlash about him, even though he was getting permission to swan off to Manchester while still being Everton manager. But now he's an oppo manager so why shouldn't they abuse him?

Re. Suarez. I think we done well to keep him in the summer, but the big clubs clearly thought they could get him cheap with the scandal looming over him.


Chelsea and Real Madrid were the two clubs who should have been after him. Neither showed the slightest interest. I am staggered at how stupid they were not for getting involved.

Arsenal's "interest" was just pathetic. 40 million plus a quid was just moronic. And when Liverpool laughed at them and said they'd never sell him, they just said okay then.

IMO you just got lucky that no one made a serious offer. If Real Madrid were after Suarez I reckon Suarez would have set fire to the training ground and Anfield to force the move.

For me, last year and now this year he's undeniably one of the top 3 players in the league, people can point to other players having better attributes than him in certain areas, but he's capable of almost anything in the final third and his attitude means he tries it/does it regularly. If any of the big clubs come calling they're going to have to pay Torres money, maybe more as for me his current level is greater than Torres' level when he was at the club. Yes, his reputation is more 'damaged' and he isn't the 'brand' Torres is, if you will, but he's a better player.


I reckon it would have taken 50m to get him last summer. I reckon he's approaching Bale/Ronaldo money now.

On Torres, he was back to the useless Torres on Wednesday. Did you see his miss from 8 yards when I think the game was level? Just awful. This season he has been transformed but Wednesday was a reversion back to the waste of a player he's been for the majority of is CFC career.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 4:57 pm  
Bet we get the Argies in the World Cup draw!
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:16 pm  
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Bet we get the Argies in the World Cup draw!


Gawd playing the Italians in the Amazon and then Suarez, Cavani and co :shock:
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:29 pm  
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Gawd playing the Italians in the Amazon and then Suarez, Cavani and co :shock:



Surely even our media won't dare build up expectations after that draw??

Hopefully, we can use the tournament to help build some experience for our younger players, without the weight of any expectation.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:41 pm  
We usually do better when we're in a tricky group
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:57 pm  
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Gawd playing the Italians in the Amazon and then Suarez, Cavani and co :shock:


Out of interest... Who are the 'and co' and are they better than what we have ???

Playing another European team in the amazon isn't too bad better than a South American team anyway
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:01 pm  
I've read odd comments criticising the draw, but I find it very strange that England can be in a group with those two, yet the French, runners up in their qualifying group, get that. I've not bothered reading up on it but I found that pot 1 business very weird. Switzerland?!
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:19 pm  
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Out of interest... Who are the 'and co' and are they better than what we have ???

Playing another European team in the amazon isn't too bad better than a South American team anyway


Well I can throw in Forlan, yes he was garbage at Man Utd but look at his international record, some of their better players are in top sides in Spain & Italy.

Doesn't matter who we'd have played in Manuas running around in over 90% humidity won't do a team that can't keep the ball much good!
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:27 pm  
Roddy B wrote:
I've read odd comments criticising the draw, but I find it very strange that England can be in a group with those two, yet the French, runners up in their qualifying group, get that. I've not bothered reading up on it but I found that pot 1 business very weird. Switzerland?!


Fifa decided the seeded teams would be selected on their rankings in mid October...just when the Swiss were on a long unbeaten run and were in the top 10.

France do look to have an easy group...but they did in South Africa as well :wink:

Group B looks the toughest to me...Spain, Holland & Chile lumped together with one of the qualifiers likely to meet the hosts in last 16 :shock:
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:02 pm  
duke street 10 wrote:
Well I can throw in Forlan, yes he was garbage at Man Utd but look at his international record, some of their better players are in top sides in Spain & Italy.

Doesn't matter who we'd have played in Manuas running around in over 90% humidity won't do a team that can't keep the ball much good!


So by 'and co' you meant a 35 yo striker who hardly plays ??? A lot of Uruguays players do play in top leagues across Europe but a high percentage of those players play in a weaker league than the premiership, Suarez and Cavani are a massive threat but that apart we shouldn't have any fear at all.

And we did draw over 90 mins against the Italians in the Euros and defeated them shortly after, an aging Italian side won't fancy the venue much either.

Not a great draw but not a terrible one, if we play near our best we should be ok IMO
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