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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:05 pm  
I can't see us getting out of the group stage in Brazil.

The talent pool of English players in the Premier League is shrinking rapidly.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:13 pm  
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I can't see us getting out of the group stage in Brazil.

The talent pool of English players in the Premier League is shrinking rapidly.


More than shrinking. The best players in the Premier League are from foreign lands.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:59 pm  
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Fancy getting beaten by a second string German team. The shame of it.

Any second string that can include Goetze, Reus, Kroos, Bender L, Bender S, Schmelzer et al isn't doing too badly, really.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:58 pm  
Glad Ibrahimovic isn't going to the World Cup. Can't stand the bloke. Saying that, can't stand Ronaldo either, but he is the lesser of two evils so I'd rather see him in Brazil than Zlatan.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:47 am  
Well done Roberto.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:06 am  
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Well done Roberto.


Comments from Moyes going about twitter are interesting.

I know, it's Norwich, but Suarez does the amazing things with such regularity, he's a stupendous player.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:11 am  
Where does that Suarez v Norwich performance rank amongst all-time individual performances in the Premier League? Any other nominations?
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:48 am  
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Comments from Moyes going about twitter are interesting.

I know, it's Norwich, but Suarez does the amazing things with such regularity, he's a stupendous player.


What comments are those?

Suarez is a great player, but I don't think that's ever been in question. We're always one day closer to the end of the fuse and who knows what'll happen next. Do you reckon you'll keep hold of him? Or will Madrid/Barca come for him if they can't get Aguero?
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:20 pm  
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What comments are those?

Suarez is a great player, but I don't think that's ever been in question. We're always one day closer to the end of the fuse and who knows what'll happen next. Do you reckon you'll keep hold of him? Or will Madrid/Barca come for him if they can't get Aguero?


Can't be bothered searching them but they were along the lines of Moyes calling the Everton fans an Fing disgrace after how they treated him last night. Shouldn't take too much searching on twitter.

Re. Suarez. I think we done well to keep him in the summer, but the big clubs clearly thought they could get him cheap with the scandal looming over him. For me, last year and now this year he's undeniably one of the top 3 players in the league, people can point to other players having better attributes than him in certain areas, but he's capable of almost anything in the final third and his attitude means he tries it/does it regularly. If any of the big clubs come calling they're going to have to pay Torres money, maybe more as for me his current level is greater than Torres' level when he was at the club. Yes, his reputation is more 'damaged' and he isn't the 'brand' Torres is, if you will, but he's a better player.
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Re: Football Chat Thread PART II : Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:13 pm  
If those Moyes comments are true, then he is a very naïve, and even deluded, bloke.

The facts are pretty clear - Moyes was headhunted by Ferguson and United, in a very unsubtle and arrogant manner. Moyes then chose to lead the Everton fans along for several months over the subject of a new contract at Goodison, before Fergie announced his retirement and then, within a matter of days, Moyes waltzes into the Old Trafford job.

Add to this, his laughable pursuit of Baines and Fellaini, and its little surprise that Everton fans have lost a lot of respect for their old manager.... You also have to remember that Moyes was not universally loved by Everton fans when he was in charge - Certainly not in the manner that the media might have had people believe.... Yes, we all appreciate where he brought us from, to where he left us, but the style of football never won everybody over and, in particular, his record against the so called big clubs was an abysmal one and something which he never ever looked like improving on.

If these comments are correct, then it definitely reveals a mindset that will be his undoing at Old Trafford (and it could be sooner rather than later)..... He obviously has a very high opinion of himself and what he has (or, more importantly, hasn't) achieved so far in his managerial career and I'm not sure United, and their fans, will accept such underachievement as the success that Moyes obviously believes it is. He has already made noises about how the Champions League is beyond them this season and now he is making similar comments about the Premier League being out of their reach - i'm not sure that type of attitude will be entertained for long within Old Trafford.
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