Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:27 am  

Roofs wrote:

Cena was absolutely outstanding on the mic, and I am 100% behind him for his match against The Rock. Don't get me wrong I was a huge Rock fan years ago but sod him, everything Cena said was completely true and I wish wrestlers could cut more real promos like that (i.e. while I'm sure it was completely scripted you could still tell Cena meant every word).

TBH I will have to pick you up on this Roofs.
Be in no doubt that Cena would be long gone if he didn't actually suck at acting so he is rather hypocritical and deep down he knows it.
On some things I agree but you have to remember that it was the WWE that binned off Dwayne Johnson (The wrestler not the char) not the other way around,
It was the WWE that didn't want to extend, Dwayne Johnson would have been happy to stay and work a reduced schedule but the WWE let him go OOC and snubbed him, He rightly got very upset about that and thought 'screw em'.

Let us be honest here the last thing in the world that Dwayne Johnson needs is to be flying all over the US and putting his real estate (His body and face) at risk, This makes you wonder why he would return and I don't for one second buy it is because he needs the movie sales, he was away for 7 years and it hardly hurt him.
I personaly think Vince offered him the kind of money that he could NOT turn down, I also find the whole 'doing it for the guys behind that curtain' a rather hypocritical statement(Again) when you consider that he hardly ever puts any of those 'Guys in the back' over infact he has pretty much gone 'SuperCena' on most of them including Kane 2 weeks ago as well as killing Ryders push stone dead just to reafirm that He is still 'Super'.

Also Cena has used this same promo about 6 times now, None of it was origional.

I do find it funny that some of the lower card are getting upset at the Rock taking their place on the WM card, My take on that is that if THEY were good enough then he wouldn't be needed.
The WWE have very probably thrown stupid money at him BECAUSE those same guys haven't got the skills to do it themselves.

So putting it bluntly Cena is full of BS, Dwayne is as well but he is needed to sell WM as there is nothing else to draw the numbers in WWE ATM.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:24 am  

Finally I think Cena is getting the hang of worked shoots...... I thought his promo when he interupted Rock was great and really sold the animosity between them...... Personally I thought he showed The Rock up.

Other than that I thought Raw was average. Cena and Bryan had another decent match until the end, Sheamus is getting built up for Wrestlemania, although I'm not sure squashing Mark Henry is a good idea..... Ziggler seems to have fallen back into mid card mediocracy.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:35 am  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

So putting it bluntly Cena is full of BS, Dwayne is as well but he is needed to sell WM as there is nothing else to draw the numbers in WWE ATM.

I'm not a fan of Cena but I think your getting a little misty eyed about The Rock....... Make no mistake the only reason he's here is for his own ego....... I've no doubt he enjoys being in the ring but he genuinely has no concern for the future of the business.

It's a shame WWE need Rocky to sell Wrestlemania as there are some great young talents in there at the moment that could be built up.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:16 am  

citywolf wrote:

I'm not a fan of Cena but I think your getting a little misty eyed about The Rock....... Make no mistake the only reason he's here is for his own ego....... I've no doubt he enjoys being in the ring but he genuinely has no concern for the future of the business.

It's a shame WWE need Rocky to sell Wrestlemania as there are some great young talents in there at the moment that could be built up.

I'm not being misty eyed about anyone.
Dwayne is here for cold hard cash of that I now have no doubt but he did have at least one good point, The likes of Foley, the Rock, SCSA, HHH, Taker, Kane, Show, etc took care of themselves no one needed to do it for them.
None of that changes that Cena is a hypocrite though.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:10 am  

I thought Raw was a good, strong show that built well for WM.

I have to question the wisdom of making a match between 2 world champions a backdrop to a feud between 2 none wrestlers, but the Punk/Jericho segment at the start of the show was great and really helped build up their match. Especially now that people seem to have got their head's round the idea that Jericho is the heel.

Also, what's the point of Kane beating down 6 guys? Other than to suggest that those 6 guys (which included the US and Tag Champs) shouldn't be taken seriously.

Also Eve Torries is so bad I think it gave me diarrhoea

Cena is definitely turning a corner in regards to his interviews.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:33 am  

Roofaldo wrote:

I thought Raw was a good, strong show that built well for WM.

I have to question the wisdom of making a match between 2 world champions a backdrop to a feud between 2 none wrestlers, but the Punk/Jericho segment at the start of the show was great and really helped build up their match. Especially now that people seem to have got their head's round the idea that Jericho is the heel.

Also, what's the point of Kane beating down 6 guys? Other than to suggest that those 6 guys (which included the US and Tag Champs) shouldn't be taken seriously.

Also Eve Torries is so bad I think it gave me diarrhoea

Cena is definitely turning a corner in regards to his interviews.

I see that Kelly Kelly has called Eve Torries a skank.

I laughed so hard at the hypocracy of that statement that my sides hurt.

Randy Orton must have pee'd himself when he heard as well.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:30 pm  

i think with the rock issue, its not a level playing field, you've got the guys in the back struggling with whatever poop the creative team give to them, when they can be bothered, with zero time to make an impact, in a pg enviroment.

Then you'[ve got rocky turning up getting 20 minute slots, throwing out his old shtick, and using insults and low level swear words that no one else is allowed to utter on tv.

rock's promo last night was average, then it got worse after cena nailed him for the notes on his arm, you know what, i actually think this poop got real, he was visibly shaken after cena called him on the notes and he's spent so long running people into the ground with his over used insults, he's not been on the end of a verbal savaging like that in forever, and didn't know how to respond.

Christ half the crowd last night were begging cena to come out and inject some life into that segment.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:50 pm  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:

i think with the rock issue, its not a level playing field, you've got the guys in the back struggling with whatever poop the creative team give to them, when they can be bothered, with zero time to make an impact, in a pg enviroment.

Then you'[ve got rocky turning up getting 20 minute slots, throwing out his old shtick, and using insults and low level swear words that no one else is allowed to utter on tv.

rock's promo last night was average, then it got worse after cena nailed him for the notes on his arm, you know what, i actually think this poop got real, he was visibly shaken after cena called him on the notes and he's spent so long running people into the ground with his over used insults, he's not been on the end of a verbal savaging like that in forever, and didn't know how to respond.

Christ half the crowd last night were begging cena to come out and inject some life into that segment.

Must admit I'm going to re-watch the segment later to see if Rock did have notes on his arm.

Cena's interuption last night was perfect and filled with emotion. It wa pretty evident that Rock struggled for a few moments afterwards.

I think I read somewhere that Rock is at next weeks Raw but can't be 100% sure, whenever he does show up though he needs to start building to Mania rather than doing the same old same old.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:58 pm  

Loving Raw at the moment. Gutted I went to Mania last year rather than this year - it's going to be class!

Got to hand it to both Cena and Rocky, they're building this feud perfectly.

Getting rather bored of D-Bry - let's get Sheamus in as champ and build a feud with a Del Rio / Barrett / Orton!

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:53 pm  

Gotta say, both The Rock and Cena are gearing this up to be an absolute epic. The Rock brings it - he's what the crowd wants, that reaction was pure electric and spine-tingling on RAW.

Despite me having no interest in Cena, he's doing his part too, and he's playing that sort of 'love me or hate me, I am who I am' role really well. They bounce off each other magnificently.

Hand on heart? This could be the best WM ever.