Re: Football Manager 2010 : Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:44 pm  

I'm looking to start a game where I will have a challenge.

Any suggestons ?

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:15 am  

Rughead wrote:

I'm looking to start a game where I will have a challenge.

Any suggestons ?

Chester City?

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:15 pm  

So, who are the hidden gems on FM10? Anyone managed to find any?

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:41 pm  

Money Mayweather wrote:

So, who are the hidden gems on FM10? Anyone managed to find any?

What patch are you playing on?

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:16 pm  

Finished 2010/2011 season as Liverpool managing to sneak 4th, but I missed out on Champions league because City (finishing 8th) won it...

Been given £26m and looking to sign Van Der Vaart on a permanent deal for £5.75m after he rejected his new deal for Real.

Need a centre back I think, any suggestions?

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:54 pm  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

What patch are you playing on?

The latest patch. I get my game updated automatically.

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:07 pm  

oli30045 wrote:

Finished 2010/2011 season as Liverpool managing to sneak 4th, but I missed out on Champions league because City (finishing 8th) won it...

Been given £26m and looking to sign Van Der Vaart on a permanent deal for £5.75m after he rejected his new deal for Real.

Need a centre back I think, any suggestions?

Neven Subotic is cheap and is dominant on my current game as Arsenal.

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:53 pm  

Money Mayweather wrote:

The latest patch. I get my game updated automatically.

Well, there are loads of gems. If you want a full list of all the high PA players under 21, there's a thread on the SI forums I can direct you to if you like?

If not, well, it's always hard on FM because of the introduction of the negative PA thing. Now not all players have fixed PA's, their ability can range from game to game, I've had games where Lauri Dalla Valle has been nothing better than a league 2 player, but others where Liverpool have played him over Torres he's developed so well. He's a -9, which means his PA ranges from something like 140-170 or 150-180, but, even then, some players start with really low CA so a lot of work is needed for them to fully reach their PA. Usually, the best way to get a player to reach his max potential is to get him tutored as early as possible by a good tutor (determination is usually a good indication of a good tutor, anything 18+ is perfect), after he adopts the determination, get him in the senior squad and get him playing regularly, if not, loan him out for regular football. IMO, competitive football is the best way to develop players on it bar none, I've tried training schedules, 7 star coaches and everything, but the best way to get them to improve is to play them IMO.

Apologies if you knew all this and you found that a little patronizing, but some people don't know so I thought I'd explain things a little

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:42 am  

Robbie Rotten wrote:

Well, there are loads of gems. If you want a full list of all the high PA players under 21, there's a thread on the SI forums I can direct you to if you like?

If not, well, it's always hard on FM because of the introduction of the negative PA thing. Now not all players have fixed PA's, their ability can range from game to game, I've had games where Lauri Dalla Valle has been nothing better than a league 2 player, but others where Liverpool have played him over Torres he's developed so well. He's a -9, which means his PA ranges from something like 140-170 or 150-180, but, even then, some players start with really low CA so a lot of work is needed for them to fully reach their PA. Usually, the best way to get a player to reach his max potential is to get him tutored as early as possible by a good tutor (determination is usually a good indication of a good tutor, anything 18+ is perfect), after he adopts the determination, get him in the senior squad and get him playing regularly, if not, loan him out for regular football. IMO, competitive football is the best way to develop players on it bar none, I've tried training schedules, 7 star coaches and everything, but the best way to get them to improve is to play them IMO.

Apologies if you knew all this and you found that a little patronizing, but some people don't know so I thought I'd explain things a little

Mr Tafer is like that on my current game. You were surprised that he joined me in League 2, but he is rated as having nowhere near the potential to be as good as James Vaughan by the scout in my Arsenal game. I checked his stats on Genie Scout and he's got a 130 CA and 132 PA. Still tears it up into the Championship but I'll look elsewhere for my Arsenal team.

Re: Football Manager 2010 : Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:53 am  

Saddened! wrote: Mr Tafer is like that on my current game. You were surprised that he joined me in League 2, but he is rated as having nowhere near the potential to be as good as James Vaughan by the scout in my Arsenal game. I checked his stats on Genie Scout and he's got a 130 CA and 132 PA. Still tears it up into the Championship but I'll look elsewhere for my Arsenal team. Was he this good on your game? The screenshot ain't mine but it just shows you how the strange PA system is. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of it to be honest, it makes sense in a way, but some players have such a low CA to start with, it really takes stupendous time and effort for him to achieve his full potential. Take the player with the double barreled name at City, Nimely whatever, I've seen a screenshot of him where he's far better than Adebayor, but on my game, he's utterly woeful and is struggling to perform for a Belgian division 2 team. The difference is, on one save, he got tutored by someone good and got regular senior football from the off, on mine, he was a bugger to tutor and a year in the reserves pretty much ended all chances of him fulfilling his potential. Whilst the idea is nice, I shouldn't have to blood players aged 16 and 17 in the senior squad, it's far too tough and risky, but it's pretty much the only way a player can fully develop, at least in my experience.

Saddened! wrote: Mr Tafer is like that on my current game. You were surprised that he joined me in League 2, but he is rated as having nowhere near the potential to be as good as James Vaughan by the scout in my Arsenal game. I checked his stats on Genie Scout and he's got a 130 CA and 132 PA. Still tears it up into the Championship but I'll look elsewhere for my Arsenal team. Was he this good on your game? The screenshot ain't mine but it just shows you how the strange PA system is. I'm not sure if I'm a fan of it to be honest, it makes sense in a way, but some players have such a low CA to start with, it really takes stupendous time and effort for him to achieve his full potential. Take the player with the double barreled name at City, Nimely whatever, I've seen a screenshot of him where he's far better than Adebayor, but on my game, he's utterly woeful and is struggling to perform for a Belgian division 2 team. The difference is, on one save, he got tutored by someone good and got regular senior football from the off, on mine, he was a bugger to tutor and a year in the reserves pretty much ended all chances of him fulfilling his potential. Whilst the idea is nice, I shouldn't have to blood players aged 16 and 17 in the senior squad, it's far too tough and risky, but it's pretty much the only way a player can fully develop, at least in my experience.