: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:15 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Favre has never been as good as Brady IMO Numbers are o.k to look at when your retired but to me super bowl rings/trophies are the best way to judge a career.
Thats why the season before last all the records the Patriots set were for nothing because they lost the only game that meant anything

What do you make of Trent Dilfer's career as he has a Super Bowl ring too ?

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:19 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

What do you make of Trent Dilfer's career as he has a Super Bowl ring too ?

Someone had to be the QB for the Ravens that year I could have done the job with that defense
Trent Dilfer will probably consider his career to have been a success because of his superbowl win otherwise he probably wouldnt have IMO.

And Im sure if you ask any QB in the nfl what they would rather have a superbowl ring or a few records the vast majority of them will choose the ring!!

Favre is definately one of the best and i know hes got a Superbowl ring but I think with all the big numbers he had he should have had at least another couple and then maybe he would have been the greatest

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:08 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Favre has never been as good as Brady IMO

Thats more ludicrous than me suggesting Favre is the best ever.

I'm sure for the three years he won consecutve MVP awards he was terrible.


I do agree that if he had more rings he would almost definately be seen as the greatest ever.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:17 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

:shock:

Thats more ludicrous than me suggesting Favre is the best ever.

I'm sure for the three years he won consecutve MVP awards he was terrible.


I do agree that if he had more rings he would almost definately be seen as the greatest ever.

Dont worry I havent gone mad I know that Brady cant compete stat wise, I was comparing more the winning percentage/ playoff records because afterall thats what its all about.

If Favre had another SB ring or 2 nobody could argue that he wasnt one of the greatest

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:26 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

:shock:

Thats more ludicrous than me suggesting Favre is the best ever.

I'm sure for the three years he won consecutve MVP awards he was terrible.


I do agree that if he had more rings he would almost definately be seen as the greatest ever.

That is a surprising statement.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:21 pm  

dont agree with the superbowl ring argument. You have tooo have a good team around you to do that dont think there has ever been a QB that has dragged his team al lthe way through the superbowl

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:20 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

Dont worry I havent gone mad I know that Brady cant compete stat wise, I was comparing more the winning percentage/ playoff records because afterall thats what its all about.

If Favre had another SB ring or 2 nobody could argue that he wasnt one of the greatest

I'd argue that over the course of his career Brady has probably had a better supporting cast and a better coaching staff.

If he had more rings there is no doubt in my mind he would be the number one rated QB in most people's opinion. Brady is a very good QB, and probably by the end of his career will be up there with Favre (along with Manning from the current crop).

Aside from stats, Favre is one of the only players i've personally ever seen who can single handedly win a game. As for winning percentage i'm not sure how they compare (as i can't find it) but i know Favre is second only to Elway in bringing his team back from a defecit in the 4th quarter or OT.

It's all a moot point really. It's an interesting discussion to have, but nobody will ever come to a conclusion as to who is the number one QB of all time. I think Favre, others Elway, Marino, Montana, Brady etc.

: Fri Jul 31, 2009 6:27 am  

It seem that only the Celtics are the team from Boston with any morals and honesty.

: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:40 am  

There had to be at least one!

: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:06 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

I don't buy the he has already been banned while in jail. If, while serving his jail time, he was not suspended he still couldn't play so it isn't an effective punishment.

I agree on the Stallworth point, both him and Vick should never play in the NFL again. EVER.

He also should have got a hell of a larger sentence from the normal US justice system than 30 days.

Pacman got a year for whatever he did (not sure but it wasn't killing animals/people) yet Vick is only getting at most 6 games.

But he was though. He was suspended before he was sent to prison. 2 years is a long time mate - he's 29 years old. If you got vexed and killed someone in your car this afternoon you might be out in a similar time frame.

There are certain things that people shouldn't be given a second chance for, I agree with that. But not this. What he did was horrible and disgusting, but he has served his time.