Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:49 pm  

lister wrote:

TNA and Vince Russo have mutually parted ways.

Bruce Pritchard is now head writer. Dave Lagana (former ROH and WWE) has now joined the creative team, after working on Ring Ka King (TNA's Indian promotion).

Yay!

Wonder if him, Ferrara and Arquette will start a promotion?!

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:02 am  

Roofs wrote:

Yay!

Wonder if him, Ferrara and Arquette will start a promotion?!

Not likely. After all, there's no-one else's money to waste

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:12 pm  

Roofs wrote:

Yay!

Wonder if him, Ferrara and Arquette will start a promotion?!

Hopefully Russo never gets another job in Wrestling.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:36 pm  

lister wrote:

TNA and Vince Russo have mutually parted ways.

Bruce Pritchard is now head writer. Dave Lagana (former ROH and WWE) has now joined the creative team, after working on Ring Ka King (TNA's Indian promotion).

Hopefully they will get their act together now.
Funnily enough I watched the PPV and they actually have some decent talent if only they would use it correctly.
I mean for a start their womens division actually has credibility and in the likes of Roode,Storm,Stlyes etc they have the guys to push on that is why I have never understood their constanst attraction in bringing in anything the WWE let go no matter how poor it is and then shoot it to the moon they just need for the way they book and promote to actually make sense.
The last European tour was a HUGE success by all accounts but yet the seem to be frightened to move away from Orlando most of the time and that HAS to hurt their credibility.
The one thing I would change is the way they use their segments backstage.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:18 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Hopefully they will get their act together now.
Funnily enough I watched the PPV and they actually have some decent talent if only they would use it correctly.
I mean for a start their womens division actually has credibility and in the likes of Roode,Storm,Stlyes etc they have the guys to push on that is why I have never understood their constanst attraction in bringing in anything the WWE let go no matter how poor it is and then shoot it to the moon they just need for the way they book and promote to actually make sense.
The last European tour was a HUGE success by all accounts but yet the seem to be frightened to move away from Orlando most of the time and that HAS to hurt their credibility.
The one thing I would change is the way they use their segments backstage.

It's because they want to go toe to toe with WWE. But TNA is minor league, just like RoH. The idea behind signing pretty much everyone WWE releases is that people already know who these guys are so you don't need to introduce them to the fans or build them up. However, the trouble is, the guys let go by WWE are let go for certain reasons. Usually it's drink and/or drugs related.

What TNA need to do is realise they aren't on the same level as WWE and they'll need a hell of a lot of work to get there. The best thing they could do is bring back Paul Heyman and the original philosophy he had in the real ECW ie hide the negatives, build up the positives. Give the fans something they can't see on WWE tv shows. A women's division that isn't populated by bikini models but rather by women who can work. Amazing, high flying matches. Story lines that actually make sense.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:09 pm  

Does anyone else thing Santino deserves his spot (If he actually makes it to the EC).
He is well over with the fans, He is liked by all, He Never complains no matter what rubbish creative give him to work with and he will happily put over anyone that needs putting over.
Maybe this is a thankyou to a company man.
He won't win it but it could well be the highlight of his career.

Infact although it has drawn raised eyebrow(s) his inclusing makes more sense that the great Kali does IMHO.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:00 pm  

Anakin Skywalker wrote:

Does anyone else thing Santino deserves his spot (If he actually makes it to the EC).
He is well over with the fans, He is liked by all, He Never complains no matter what rubbish creative give him to work with and he will happily put over anyone that needs putting over.
Maybe this is a thankyou to a company man.
He won't win it but it could well be the highlight of his career.

Infact although it has drawn raised eyebrow(s) his inclusing makes more sense that the great Kali does IMHO.

Well wasn't he one of the last guy's left in last year's Rumble? TBH, Santino is a life-long job guy so even him getting into these spots means no-one actually believes he'll have any type of effect on the outcome of the match.

But tbh, that could be used to describe a lot of guys in WWE. Spend 18 months jobbing out to the whole roster then get moved into a main event match? Not believable, so no-one gets behind them unless they do what Ryder did and do something outside the box to get over.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:09 pm  

Roofaldo wrote:

Well wasn't he one of the last guy's left in last year's Rumble? TBH, Santino is a life-long job guy so even him getting into these spots means no-one actually believes he'll have any type of effect on the outcome of the match.

But tbh, that could be used to describe a lot of guys in WWE. Spend 18 months jobbing out to the whole roster then get moved into a main event match? Not believable, so no-one gets behind them unless they do what Ryder did and do something outside the box to get over.

But that is my point.
Santino IS over with the crowd you only have to look at the last Smackdown to see that.
He is a damn sight more over and has done a hell of a lot more than Kali has recently.
So of the two Santion wins everytime.
You then need to start to think who else they have to go in.
Orton, Henry and Christian are sidelined and there is a SERIOUS shortage on Smackdown.

There are others but most are in the middle of a feud with someone Ted j'r as an example, It could be argued that they could have shoved Shamus in there but that makes the whole 'main event at wrestlemania' kinda redundant.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:40 pm  

Not the best PPV they could have put on as a lead into Wrestlemania.

I really think they should do away with the EC. It's fine to watch it on tv, but it must be awful to try and watch a match through that mess of chains.

Kind of strange they kicked off with the WWE title match. But then it became obvious that they did that so they could do a load of "comedy" Rocky skits with Santino (who was actually a bright spot in his match and really showed that he doesn't need WWE's idea of funny to get over)

The way they handled the removal of Jericho from the EC was a good idea. It means that Jericho was never pinned and has a legitimate reason to have a 1 on 1 title match with Punk at Mania.

I'm not sure that the Cena vs Kane match achieved what they were going for. However the crowd DID get behind Cena towards the end.

Re: Men in Lycra - the Wrestling thread : Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:36 pm  

The back of Kofi's head. Ouch.

Chris Jericho stated in his book that whoever came up with the EC has never been in a wrestling match in their life