: Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:02 am  

LFCRhino wrote:

Now that Favre has finally "retired"until another team shows interest I would expect Michael Vick to end up in Minnesota now

That will have to be done quick but until then will Jackson be the QB whilst dog boy serves his punishment ?

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:54 pm  

Dead Man Walking wrote:

That will have to be done quick but until then will Jackson be the QB whilst dog boy serves his punishment ?

He may not even miss a game now according to Goodell if he behaves himself

I dont disagree with letting him play but i think he should have been suspended for the rest of the year, I also think that there should be a clause for him and anyone else in a similar position that if they get into trouble again thats it they should be banned for life but i doubt Goodell would have the balls to do that

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:15 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

He may not even miss a game now according to Goodell if he behaves himself

I dont disagree with letting him play but i think he should have been suspended for the rest of the year, I also think that there should be a clause for him and anyone else in a similar position that if they get into trouble again thats it they should be banned for life but i doubt Goodell would have the balls to do that

I thought Vick could play in the last two pre-season games but he'd miss several weeks of the regular season ? If Goodeel can ban Pacman Jones for the year he can do the same to Vick....if he has the balls.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:53 pm  

LFCRhino wrote:

I dont disagree with letting him play but i think he should have been suspended for the rest of the year, I also think that there should be a clause for him and anyone else in a similar position that if they get into trouble again thats it they should be banned for life but i doubt Goodell would have the balls to do that

He's already been suspended by the NFL since prior to his incarceration, and will be further suspended until Week 6 if he finds a team now he's been reinstated.

Considering Donte Stallworth got effectively a slap on the wrist (about as much as you get for failing a drug test in the NFL) for taking a life, arguing that Vick should be punished more heavily than he has been (both in football and in general social terms) is ridiculous.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 2:58 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

On the whole i'm pleased that it is over with. He was one of the greatest QB's ever (if not the) and would be tarnishing his legacy.


Although it wouldn't suprise me if he changed his mind again

That made me laugh,without even trying I can think of Elway,Montana and Unitas that were better than Farve.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:42 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

He's already been suspended by the NFL since prior to his incarceration, and will be further suspended until Week 6 if he finds a team now he's been reinstated.

Considering Donte Stallworth got effectively a slap on the wrist (about as much as you get for failing a drug test in the NFL) for taking a life, arguing that Vick should be punished more heavily than he has been (both in football and in general social terms) is ridiculous.

I don't buy the he has already been banned while in jail. If, while serving his jail time, he was not suspended he still couldn't play so it isn't an effective punishment.

I agree on the Stallworth point, both him and Vick should never play in the NFL again. EVER.

He also should have got a hell of a larger sentence from the normal US justice system than 30 days.

Pacman got a year for whatever he did (not sure but it wasn't killing animals/people) yet Vick is only getting at most 6 games.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:43 pm  

DAR130 wrote:

That made me laugh,without even trying I can think of Elway,Montana and Unitas that were better than Farve.

It's debatable.

Favre has the numbers over all of them.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:46 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

It's debatable.

Favre has the numbers over all of them.

Brady and Peyton are better players than Favre, numbers don't mean sh*t mate.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:57 pm  

MD7 wrote:

Brady and Peyton are better players than Favre, numbers don't mean sh*t mate.

NOW they are but Favre in his prime (like Peyton and Brady are now) was probably better and over his career he has phenomenal numbers.

: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:08 pm  

ST_CONROY wrote:

NOW they are but Favre in his prime (like Peyton and Brady are now) was probably better and over his career he has phenomenal numbers.

Favre has never been as good as Brady IMO Numbers are o.k to look at when your retired but to me super bowl rings/trophies are the best way to judge a career.
Thats why the season before last all the records the Patriots set were for nothing because they lost the only game that meant anything