Pulling the wool over the fans' eyes by fabrication? Tut tut.

Yes, Osman may be average, he may be a 'plodder', but, at present, he's still a better player than Henderson, which is probably even more of an indication of how awful Dalgish's transfer dealings were.

Your reason for Henderson's inclusion seems to be based on the basis that we aren't going to win this tournament and so we should select a player who might be decent for future international competitions??.....Well, on that basis, we should bin Gerrard and bring in Ross Barkley, a player regarded by many as a future star?

Henderson's inclusion is baffling at best and its only positive is that it will only enforce the pessimism surrounding England's chances and so, thankfully, we won't have the media wailing that usually surrounds our failure in these tournaments.

England v Belgium line-ups: https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/ ... 61/photo/1 Not quite sure where Milner sits in all that.

England v Belgium line-ups: https://twitter.com/henrywinter/status/ ... 61/photo/1 Not quite sure where Milner sits in all that.

Well thats the first time I've seen Hazard apart from a few Youtube clips. Didn't do much today.

People arguing between Osman and Henderson

English football is in a great state

It is.

English football players generally suck though.

England are going to really struggle. They really will.

I love the whole - theres no expectation so we might do quite well, wink wink approach from the pundits and media.

This is the first tournament in many years where our expectations will be met. I don't expect england to qualify from the group.

france - unbeaten in 21 games
sweden - never beaten in a competitive fixture
ukraine - host nation

I know hodgson has barely had chance to make a cup of tea since becoming england manager but there is no difference in our play to under capello. Rigid, 442, with inability to create chances and keep posession.

We only just qualified from that p*ss easy group in south africa, but not this time.

I wouldn't be bothered if he did drop Gerrard for Barkley, more power to Roy.

So many people talk about other countries and talk about what they do well. All people harped on about at the last world cup was how young Germany's team was and how so many of them had 'came from the U21s'. Henderson has played for England's U21s for a few years now and he's done well, an opportunity has came for him to play in the senior side and they've decided to continue his development by bringing him in. If you want to see hopeless players like Osman in the team, then good for you, but I can see the potential in Henderson and could see why they'd rather invest in youth, than invest in dross with no future. The only way England will win future tournaments is if they invest in their younger players and begin to get the best from them. This generation clearly couldn't cut it, for numerous reasons, but now players like Wilshere, Ox-Chamberlain, Jones etc. are beginning to establish themselves in the side. Henderson isn't quite in their league, but he's a decent player who could feature for years as a dependable player, the sooner they get him settled and can rely on him, the better.

Except create half a dozen opportunities which, had Belgium an out-and-out goalscorer, could and possibly should have made the difference.

Cahill out, Kelly in. I didn't mind the Henderson inclusion but come on?

He seems to be picking players who have done well for the under 21's which isn't a bad idea.

I can only assume that Micah Richards turned down the option of being included on the standby list as he was the obvious choice to replace Cahill in the squad.

Another Liverpool player called up for England. Ha ha!