Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:18 pm  

Fresh Prince of Chesh-air wrote:

Liverpool finished 8th, not 7th.

Even better.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:29 pm  

Mark wrote:

League placing means absolutely nothing in terms of goals scored? Surely it would be chance conversion rate? I'm sure you will know that Welbeck get's asked to play outwide from time to time as well. How many did Danny Graham score? 12 goals? Must be better than Suarez then. Surely Suarez should be scoring more in a team that finished 7th. Classic LTS.


Keep posting.

I just don't rate Welbeck the same as you don't rate Henderson. He has underachieved this year, IMO.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:46 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I just don't rate Welbeck the same as you don't rate Henderson. He has underachieved this year, IMO.

Where have I said I don't rate Henderson. I think he's a cracking player with bags of potential. No real weakness in his game. Great prospect for the future. Welbeck has most of the atrributes to be a very good player, his first touch needs lot's of work though, has a better all round game than any england striker not named Rooney.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:49 pm  

I dunno, what about Defoe in his pomp?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:09 pm  

Liverpool are hillarious. Rodgers was clearly not intending to go back for more talks with Liverpool and was getting stuck into tying up Swansea's transfers for next season. Then the talks with Roberto Martinez fell down because of his refusal to work with any stupid DOF system and they call Brendan. Then every single person at Liverpool from Rodgers to Ayre to the Yanks all reel out the comment I said they would, about Rodgers being first choice. Even Steven Gerrard read out a statement at the England camp which was so funny, "I've been in the loop all along, Brendan Rodgers was first choice, he was the first choice, I knew, I always knew, he was first choice".

Why do clubs need to lie like this? When did football become so dishonest? Why not stick with the truth, that Rodgers was the only man formerly offered the job (As Martinez told them he wouldn't work in their system) and not try to add in the fact that he was first choice, when he so clearly wasn't?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:14 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Liverpool are hillarious. Rodgers was clearly not intending to go back for more talks with Liverpool and was getting stuck into tying up Swansea's transfers for next season. Then the talks with Roberto Martinez fell down because of his refusal to work with any stupid DOF system and they call Brendan. Then every single person at Liverpool from Rodgers to Ayre to the Yanks all reel out the comment I said they would, about Rodgers being first choice. Even Steven Gerrard read out a statement at the England camp which was so funny, "I've been in the loop all along, Brendan Rodgers was first choice, he was the first choice, I knew, I always knew, he was first choice".

Why do clubs need to lie like this? When did football become so dishonest? Why not stick with the truth, that Rodgers was the only man formerly offered the job (As Martinez told them he wouldn't work in their system) and not try to add in the fact that he was first choice, when he so clearly wasn't?

Just tell me how you know what's gone on at Liverpool? Seriously. You're ranting on the basis of rumour and nothing more. Who's to say that Rodgers didn't say to the club "I won't speak to you until you offer me the job", so they spoke to a few others then decided that he was worth the risk? I don't know - or care - if Rodgers was our first or fifth choice, he's our manager now and if they want to say he's their first choice, good for them, who are you to argue?

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:42 pm  

PAUL M wrote:

£38m for Hulk to Chelsea!

He's not incredible

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:30 pm  

Roddy B wrote:

Just tell me how you know what's gone on at Liverpool? Seriously. You're ranting on the basis of rumour and nothing more. Who's to say that Rodgers didn't say to the club "I won't speak to you until you offer me the job", so they spoke to a few others then decided that he was worth the risk? I don't know - or care - if Rodgers was our first or fifth choice, he's our manager now and if they want to say he's their first choice, good for them, who are you to argue?

I posted that they would say that and they did, repeatedly so everyone would believe them. It's not a big issue, it's just funny they feel the need to insist he was first choice.

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:58 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I posted that they would say that and they did, repeatedly so everyone would believe them. It's not a big issue, it's just funny they feel the need to insist he was first choice.

surely not

Re: The Football Chat (cont) : Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:19 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

I posted that they would say that and they did, repeatedly so everyone would believe them. It's not a big issue, it's just funny they feel the need to insist he was first choice.

They do it to instill support into the manager and get the fans behind him. If they came out and said "we interviewed Klopp, Deschamps, de Boer, Martinez and Mazzarri, they all rejected us so we were kinda stuck with Rodgers", how on earth do you think people would react? Similar to Hodgson, that's how.

If they tell fans he's the number one, fans will feel a little more satisfied because the club 'have their man' and will buy into the whole 'determined to win' thing, as it looks good for the owners looking determined to get who they want.

Basically, it's all media stuff, saying the right things and sending the right message. It happens with signings as well, it's always "we got the player we always wanted". Nobody knows what's been going on, so nobody knows if they're lying or being truthful, but then nobody really cares as most people see it for what it is -- media crap.